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rixy
30-11-10, 07:06
has anyone on here fitted injector nozzle's to their tdi to gain more power yet? if so, are these one's any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-1-9-TDI-216-injector-nozzles-GOLF-PASSAT-AUDI-/330501664938?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf36f30aa

Also, is his fitting guide and ecu adaption the correct way to do it all? only asking as i want more power in my little 90bhp mk3 golf daily? :-)

RaCiNg SnAkE
30-11-10, 07:17
Can't vouch for the stuff they are selling as I've never bought from them.

However, the adaptation guide that they link to is correct.

Deanpompey
30-11-10, 19:15
I bought from him for my 2.5, fitted last week, all seems good so far :*

jellyhead
30-11-10, 19:46
sweet nice find, good to hear some more feed back on these after you used them for abit :ILU:

rixy
30-11-10, 20:26
well i've spokent o my local motor factors (vw specialists) and he can get me 4 genuine bosch nozzles of .205 or .216 size, for about 80.00 inc vat :-) so i might just get them from him.....

so using the adaption guide, will the car run exactly as a 110 bhp engine would do??

Deanpompey
30-11-10, 20:49
the .216 nozzles were from the 151bhp motor.

the nozzles by themselves wont give you that figure instantly, you'll need a remap to get the best from them, although you will notice a difference without the map.

JIMMYJAMES
30-11-10, 21:52
Get proper ones mate, i have cheap unbranded ones and they are utter rubbish.

Flock'd
02-12-10, 06:41
Where's the best place to get genuine Bosch .216s? Or is the motor factors the best place to start?

Flock'd
02-12-10, 09:06
well i've spokent o my local motor factors (vw specialists) and he can get me 4 genuine bosch nozzles of .205 or .216 size, for about 80.00 inc vat :-) so i might just get them from him.....

so using the adaption guide, will the car run exactly as a 110 bhp engine would do??

Rixy, I managed to hunt down the part number for the .216s (DSLA150P764) and phoned up the local motor factors.

"Yes, sir. We can supply a set for £75.06+VAT"

After a phone call to their supplier, it turns out a "set" is 1 x nozzle, plus copper washer etc.

So, check that the "set" is 5 nozzles and not just what they quoted me.

HOWEVER, on the plus side, they said that they can do a set (of 5) for £55+VAT each. Sounds good to me :) Genuine Bosch nozzles too. After looking on the TDIclub forums, and reading about the nightmares other have had with poor injector nozzles, I'm going for genuine.

rixy
02-12-10, 09:45
same here mate, genuine only i think....

are the kerma tdi ones any good?

Anyhoo, i only need 4 injectors as mines a 1z, not a 2.5 5cyl....

still not sure whether to go for .216 or .205...........

rixy
02-12-10, 09:45
The car is currently standard enginewise, but i intend to get some new nozzles for the injectors, as my engine has covered 165k miles now, and im bored with 90bhp, lol.

Would i be better off going for the .205's or the .216's?

I dont want to lose too much economy, and also i prob wont be changing turbo's and re mapping etc, but i do want more power.

Can the .216's be set up properly with a standard chip in the ecu, or does it struggle with the IQ rates? If so, obv .205's would be better.

Only reason im asking is because i've heard people say dont bother with .205's as you dont notice it?

Also, i wont be buying cheap nozzle's, only genuine bosch ones for me. i can get them from my VW parts supplier :-)

Flock'd
02-12-10, 10:15
The car is currently standard enginewise, but i intend to get some new nozzles for the injectors, as my engine has covered 165k miles now, and im bored with 90bhp, lol.

Would i be better off going for the .205's or the .216's?

I dont want to lose too much economy, and also i prob wont be changing turbo's and re mapping etc, but i do want more power.

Can the .216's be set up properly with a standard chip in the ecu, or does it struggle with the IQ rates? If so, obv .205's would be better.

Only reason im asking is because i've heard people say dont bother with .205's as you dont notice it?

Also, i wont be buying cheap nozzle's, only genuine bosch ones for me. i can get them from my VW parts supplier :-)

I'm all pretty new to this as well. One thing I've found reading up on this is that the .216s will give you a power boost without a re-map, but you may see more smoke. It really needs a re-map to get the best from it.

I have read that some people get an improved economy even after fitting .216s.

Would you mind sharing where you can get the genuine nozzles from? Are they a better price than the £55+VAT ea that I can get them at, and are they available quickly!?! Time is of the essence for mine at the moment!

Matt888
02-12-10, 19:41
You will need a remap if you put in bigger injectors. Do a search on here for Project Power and have a read about it. If want more info try contacting Rake on here as he supplies nozzles/ injectors that plenty of us on here ( me included are running). It can be expensive but well worth it IMO.

Matt

Flock'd
02-12-10, 20:04
sorry, posted in wrong thread

aggie
02-12-10, 20:10
I bought a set of .216 nozzles from Prothe racing on ebay,they came from the USA and i had to pay import tax at the post office,they worked out at around £60.
After installing them the idle was fine but not much extra power was gained after adjusting the IQ with vagcom,i only noticed the difference when i fitted a tuning box from germany for £49,once i turned the fuel up using that it went like billio.With a boost tweek and ecu boost fool it made 140bhp on the rolling road,RESULT! thats without a remap or chip,its been like that for two years and i have had no problems at all.
So a 50bhp increase for £109 is a good way to go if you know what your doing with boost control and ecu fooling etc.
Dont buy the .205's and the 110BHP use a vnt turbo not wastegate turbo.

joao
03-12-10, 09:32
How can we mess with the boost control and ecu fooling?

Can you explain the procedure to someone that doesn’t have any idea of the meaning of ecu fooling? :D


Joćo

rixy
03-12-10, 14:03
thanks aggie and others....

Thats what i was hoping to do, give it more power, but for minimal cost. I will find out a price on the nozzle's as he hasnt got back to me with a deffo price yet,but im sure they were about 80.00 a set - (of 4 so im told - thats what im waiting to be confirmed)

What tuning box did you buy aggie, and by fooing the ecu do you mean running a manual boost controller, or bleed valve?

Would i need a larger Front Mount intercooler for this? as the golf is still running the standard lower front mount one?

Also, when fitting new nozzle's, is it absolutely necessary to do pop testing, or whatever its called?

Fishbreath Mc Pebblepincher
05-12-10, 09:10
Rixy, I managed to hunt down the part number for the .216s (DSLA150P764) and phoned up the local motor factors.

"Yes, sir. We can supply a set for £75.06+VAT"

After a phone call to their supplier, it turns out a "set" is 1 x nozzle, plus copper washer etc.

So, check that the "set" is 5 nozzles and not just what they quoted me.

HOWEVER, on the plus side, they said that they can do a set (of 5) for £55+VAT each. Sounds good to me :) Genuine Bosch nozzles too. After looking on the TDIclub forums, and reading about the nightmares other have had with poor injector nozzles, I'm going for genuine.

you can get genuine a lot cheaper than that or an alternative that are as good in fact some say better called bosio frateli. I got a set of bosio's which retail on most sites for £350+ for less than £200 T: