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Old 17-11-16, 07:38
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Default LT wheels and tyres

Not a question thread, but maybe a bit of info for anyone who wants to fit 16" steels to their van and larger tyres for a bit better cruising speeds.

Firstly I appreciate that this isn't for everyone and I have carried this out to gain a better choice of tyres which has helped me up the gearing by increasing rolling radius. I have been messing around with different wheels/tyres on all sorts of cars for about 15 years and have a slightly sad wheel and tyre addiction..
I cannot afford or am yet to find some 16 alloys second hand and I was a bit dubious about going down the touraeg route with lower profile 17/18s, so pursued this route.

I can sort some proper pics out later if anyone is remotely interested, but general gist is:-

16" renault master (and equivalent, maybe movano?) wheels are 5 x 130 PCD.
The offset is good
The Centre bore is slightly too big, but this can be overcome with spigot rings meant for alloy wheels and a bit of fun with a hacksaw/grinder. SPIGOT RINGS - 84.1 - 89.1 set of 4 5 off ebay for a set.
They can be bought brand new for about 40 a wheel.

Having tried a few tyres sizes I now run larger tyres on the back than the front.
The front arches have a lot less clearance than the rear.

Rear tyres that will fit are 205 80 16 (a good land rover size) and 235 75 16 (also a good LR/ 4x4 size) are similar radius but slightly wider.
The fronts are 225 65 16 which is a fairly common modern van size.

Yes this does look slightly odd to a trained eye, but not too much like a dragster!
And to overcome the different sizes, I now carry another standard 15 spare, so if I have a puncture I just change both wheels on an axle.

IMG_20160904_154107_1280 by stanstorey, on Flickr
The gain for all this effort has been:-
- about 400-500rpm drop at cruising speeds and the van generally feels a bit happier on longer runs...
- I get to run a slightly more aggressive tyre as tyres options are better, which helps me greatly in the devon countryside!
- I didn't have to pay to have my manky old 15 steels refurbed!
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Old 23-11-16, 18:42
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Default Re: LT wheels and tyres

Hi, looking to do the same. What year of Renault Master / Movano wheels did you get? How come you've had to cut the spigot rings - or did I read that wrong? Thanks
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Old 24-11-16, 10:28
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Hi, looking to do the same. What year of Renault Master / Movano wheels did you get? How come you've had to cut the spigot rings - or did I read that wrong? Thanks
Fairly modern Master. Steels where bought from oponeo.

The spigots are designed for alloys which have a taper on the back. Steels don't have this taper and this tapered bit of spigot stops the steel from sitting flush with the hub.
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Old 25-11-16, 21:13
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Not a question thread, but maybe a bit of info for anyone who wants to fit 16" steels to their van and larger tyres for a bit better cruising speeds.

Firstly I appreciate that this isn't for everyone and I have carried this out to gain a better choice of tyres which has helped me up the gearing by increasing rolling radius. I have been messing around with different wheels/tyres on all sorts of cars for about 15 years and have a slightly sad wheel and tyre addiction..
I cannot afford or am yet to find some 16 alloys second hand and I was a bit dubious about going down the touraeg route with lower profile 17/18s, so pursued this route.

I can sort some proper pics out later if anyone is remotely interested, but general gist is:-

16" renault master (and equivalent, maybe movano?) wheels are 5 x 130 PCD.
The offset is good
The Centre bore is slightly too big, but this can be overcome with spigot rings meant for alloy wheels and a bit of fun with a hacksaw/grinder. SPIGOT RINGS - 84.1 - 89.1 set of 4 5 off ebay for a set.
They can be bought brand new for about 40 a wheel.

Having tried a few tyres sizes I now run larger tyres on the back than the front.
The front arches have a lot less clearance than the rear.

Rear tyres that will fit are 205 80 16 (a good land rover size) and 235 75 16 (also a good LR/ 4x4 size) are similar radius but slightly wider.
The fronts are 225 65 16 which is a fairly common modern van size.

Yes this does look slightly odd to a trained eye, but not too much like a dragster!
And to overcome the different sizes, I now carry another standard 15 spare, so if I have a puncture I just change both wheels on an axle.

IMG_20160904_154107_1280 by stanstorey, on Flickr
The gain for all this effort has been:-
- about 400-500rpm drop at cruising speeds and the van generally feels a bit happier on longer runs...
- I get to run a slightly more aggressive tyre as tyres options are better, which helps me greatly in the devon countryside!
- I didn't have to pay to have my manky old 15 steels refurbed!
hello , this is really great post thank you very much for your time invested, 1 question I live in france and the use of different sized tyres is a no no , is there a reason why I cant fit 225/65/16 on the front and rear, yours gratefully rikki
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Old 27-11-16, 07:41
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not at all - 225 65 16 all round would be great.
I just wanted the largest tyres i could on the rear to raise the gearing and therefore lower the RPM at cruising speeds. All in the hope to save a bit of fuel and make longer journeys a bit more relaxed.

I also have quite a few 205 80 16 tyres from various land rovers floating around!
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Old 27-11-16, 11:44
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Hi there

Has there been any change to your speedo calibration?

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Old 27-11-16, 15:05
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he please forgive me for all questions but like you I like to improve , so the 205/80/16 are the tallest , and will they fit the front aswell, I havens started paintwork yet so if arches need an adjustment that's no problem , as you id like taller and wider if possible,
regards rikki
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Old 27-11-16, 19:18
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There isn't a huge amount of clearance in the front arch when on lock...I wouldn't like to run a 205 80 16 on the front as I think the arch would be destroyed quite quickly.
If you can flare them out or reduce them neatly then ideal!
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Old 28-11-16, 11:42
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ok mate , understand maybe some !carlos fandango wheel arch kits!, as in the old days , thanks very much rikki
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