Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-06-16, 16:32
RZSupra RZSupra is offline
Van Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 7
T4 Post Icon Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Hi

I've been browsing the site for a few months trying to decide what type of T4 camper conversion to buy. I need a pop top ideally with heating. My eye has been caught by Autosleeper Troopers, T4 Westfalia and Holdsworth conversions.

Despite checking eBay every two minutes there seems to be very few of the above coming on to the market and those that do appear seem very expensive. Am I really going to have to pay 15-16K for a 15 year old Trooper or Westfalia or am I looking in the wrong place?

I guess I also need advice on whether there's another option I've not considered at this price point. I'm a VW lover (currently have a T2 Westfalia, Polo and UP) but might even consider non-VW.

Thanks for any advice

Colin
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 03-06-16, 16:52
scruffytoo's Avatar
scruffytoo scruffytoo is offline
More than a little van obsessed
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Location: Location:
Posts: 6,154
T4 Post Icon Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Quote:
Originally Posted by RZSupra View Post
Hi

I've been browsing the site for a few months trying to decide what type of T4 camper conversion to buy. I need a pop top ideally with heating. My eye has been caught by Autosleeper Troopers, T4 Westfalia and Holdsworth conversions.

Despite checking eBay every two minutes there seems to be very few of the above coming on to the market and those that do appear seem very expensive. Am I really going to have to pay 15-16K for a 15 year old Trooper or Westfalia or am I looking in the wrong place?

I guess I also need advice on whether there's another option I've not considered at this price point. I'm a VW lover (currently have a T2 Westfalia, Polo and UP) but might even consider non-VW.

Thanks for any advice

Colin
If you get a good late Westfalia for 16k, you have hit the jackpot. The top vehicles are still going for upto and around 30,000 Euro in Germany (and some of those are 15+ years old)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 03-06-16, 17:07
shartlan shartlan is offline
Van Man
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Darmstadt Germany
Posts: 19
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

I agree, if it is a good one, that is a steal!
I have a 2003 pop top Westy in great condition, with now 160000km. I paid 26K euros (Germany) around 4 yrs ago (about 125K km) and it is still worth about the same now (may be a little more, looking at the current German market).

Other than tyres and servicing I have only had to replace the track rod ends.

Great investment!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 03-06-16, 17:15
RZSupra RZSupra is offline
Van Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 7
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Cheers. How does the Trooper compare?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 03-06-16, 17:25
RZSupra RZSupra is offline
Van Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 7
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

The T4 Westy was a 1997 White California Coach on sale in leigh on Sea for 14,995. I'm not sure about the service history or provenance.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 03-06-16, 17:42
scruffytoo's Avatar
scruffytoo scruffytoo is offline
More than a little van obsessed
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Location: Location:
Posts: 6,154
T4 Post Icon Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Quote:
Originally Posted by RZSupra View Post
The T4 Westy was a 1997 White California Coach on sale in leigh on Sea for 14,995. I'm not sure about the service history or provenance.
As you appreciate with a vehicle that is 19 years of age you are going to have to be pretty sure about it.

Price will also reflect engine type, and so will the importance of good service history ........ anyone can put an 'inky' rubber stamp in a book even me (price on application .......................... only joking!).

All T4's, once you are in that price bracket and above, become a very 'considered purchase' .............. so the more you know the more aware you are
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 03-06-16, 18:16
RZSupra RZSupra is offline
Van Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 7
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Thanks. The Troopers I've spotted do appear to have a proper "full" service history and are sub 100K but I'm not sure how they compare value wise to a Westy

Does this look over-priced?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3221129573...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 03-06-16, 18:23
campernologist campernologist is online now
Van Master Jedi
Official MemberVW Transporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: dorset
Posts: 988
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

I had an A/S Trident (high top version of Trooper) before my current T4 and my father still has a Trooper. IIRC mine had Propex blown air gas heating. Autotrader currently has a '96 Trooper for 12k and a 2001 long nose for 16.5k, amongst others. the former is a bit of a way from you in Somerset but to get the right van you have to be prepared to drop everything and travel as good ones won't hang around ! alternatively, give Andy a call. he offers a direct source service if he hasn't got what you're looking for in stock.
http://www.campervans4u.com/
Also worth having a look on mobile.de to see what's available in Germany.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 03-06-16, 19:00
RZSupra RZSupra is offline
Van Rookie
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 7
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

Much appreciated. I'm happy to travel for the right van. I think the trooper and long nose westy have been on sale for a while (sure I've seen them on eBay a month ago) so probably over-priced (or maybe I'm naive).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 03-06-16, 20:01
campernologist campernologist is online now
Van Master Jedi
Official MemberVW Transporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: dorset
Posts: 988
Default Re: Realistic prices for Autosleeper or Holdsworth

sorry should have made myself clearer, both the examples I cited are Troopers. the later ones were based on the long nose caravelle, my father's is like this, nice looking vans.

...and looks just like this one, only his isn't a TDI

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=1153322

Last edited by campernologist; 03-06-16 at 20:03.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the VW T4 Forum - VW T5 Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
First Name
Surname
Postcode
Postbit Orientation
Change the display of the avatars and members types.
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)
Body & Engine Type
Tell us about your van.

Log-in


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:00.