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hiy all,
sussex police have been stopping commercial vans and asking drivers to fill in a survey to ask them about speed etc.
DID you know that all light commercial ( yes Transporters) are only allowed 50mph on single roads and 60mph on dual roads. 70mph is only available on motorways.
I do not know if the people carrier is classed as a commercial but us drivers are being made aware of this by stop checks.

http://www.gnwb.com/LTBs/LTB Clarification of National Speed Limits for Vans and LGVs.htm
 

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David,

thank you , i know im about to be stuffed on the tax!!!:(

glad about the speed limit though:)

why do the government punish honest people,all ive done wrong is have a big family and foster:confused:

Jaine xx
 

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Government don't give a **** about people, they only care about how much money they can rape us for, without putting themselves out of power at the next elecetion.
 

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hiy all,
sussex police have been stopping commercial vans and asking drivers to fill in a survey to ask them about speed etc.
DID you know that all light commercial ( yes Transporters) are only allowed 50mph on single roads and 60mph on dual roads. 70mph is only available on motorways.
I do not know if the people carrier is classed as a commercial but us drivers are being made aware of this by stop checks.

http://www.gnwb.com/LTBs/LTB Clarification of National Speed Limits for Vans and LGVs.htm
Better having a road side survey than fixed penalty notice arriving through the post after some, Police wannabe sitting in the back of a Camera van.

And if you have been caught. This is fun.

http://www.ugoplayer.com/games/talivanlaunch.html#relatedgames
 

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Been discussed at length on here. If your V5 says Light Goods Vehicle then you're restricted to 50/60 but you only pay LGV Tax (around £180)!. If it says motorhome or such then you're ok 60/70 but have to pay private tax rates (up to £400 from next year).

My tax class says lpg, body type says motor caravan. ive just paid 90something quid for 6 onths tax

so what speed can i do.

Is it not lpg cheaper tax, diesal car more tax

bodytype -panel van low speed, motorcaravan higher speed?

Im not sure , please correct me if i am wrong??:confused:
 

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It's down to the taxation class assigned when registered. If registered as LGV your stuck with limited speed no matter what you do for the body type. Now that the old bill have gone digital it's not unheard of the set the camera limits lower say at 63 instead of 73 and just manually vet out cars and do the commercials. Whether they would compare the smaller glazed vans like the T4/5 against the dvla information I don't know as some are diesel cars, some PLG and some LGVs.

End story is if it's a LGV with a motorcaravan body it's the lower limits, but would old bill laboriously look through DVLA data or just see it was a window van and discard it?
 

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Guys, guys, guys, you are all horribly mis-informed. There is a clear distinction between taxation class and the speed limit of a vehicle. And yet again there are far too many people on forums ike this that get the facts wrong and unwittingly allow people who don't check their facts thoroughly to think that they are ok to break the law.

I don't wish to put anybody down, but this is a very commonly mis-understood area.

Taxation is based upon the USAGE of your vehicle. Passenger cars etc are charged according to their age, emmissions and size. Therefore, if your T4/5 says 'diesel car' on the V5, that is because that is the purpose it was designed for, and hence why you pay tax accordingly. Commercial vehicle tax is subsidised by the Government to promote businesses, in the same way that they can buy stuff for the business VAT free.

Speed limits are solely based around the BODY TYPE of the vehicle. Primarily because bigger vehicles can carry bigger loads and hence take longer to stop. If you drive a small van (and this is the KEY phrase), that has a CAR DERIVED BODY (e.g. Ford Escort VAN, Vauxhall Astra VAN), then you can drive at the speed limit for cars. If your vehicle does NOT have a CAR DERIVED BODY, then you must obey the lower speed limits. This includes ALL T4/5 variants. DO NOT BE MISTAKEN IN THINKING THAT IF YOU DRIVE A CARAVELLE THAT YOU CAN DRIVE FASTER!!!

Do not let people on this forum think that you can buy a van which has something other than PLG on the V5 and be exempt from the reduced speed limits. You are not.

People will whinge and moan that this is not fair, but if you are going to buy a van, any van, then you ultimately have to make a few compromises and this is one of them. Yes, the liklihood of being stopped and charged is not high, and Police in my experience are normally very understanding, but ignorance is not an excuse.

I hope that this clears this issue up once and for all as it is a great shame that so many people on forums like this are mis-informed, and that people who read forums such as this take everything that they read as sacrosanct! There are many mis-informed people on here too!

Hope this helps.
 

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if its a velle,
or meets the consturction and use regs for dual purpose vehicle (rear door glass, side glass next to rear seat, and a NON-Removable rear seat) its covered by car speed limits..

Given kombis have a removable seat they are not dual purpose hence van limits apply (unless you were to doctor the rear seat such that it is fixed)..

Construction & use regs and vehicle types define speed limits..
 

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well on my tax disc it says "LGV", and its a T5 t28 kombi with 6 seats.£200 a year to tax,and goes like stink.Rasp:Rasp:
 

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if its a velle,
or meets the consturction and use regs for dual purpose vehicle (rear door glass, side glass next to rear seat, and a NON-Removable rear seat) its covered by car speed limits..

Given kombis have a removable seat they are not dual purpose hence van limits apply (unless you were to doctor the rear seat such that it is fixed)..

Construction & use regs and vehicle types define speed limits..
So What you're saying is that if you have a standard caravelle and broke the catch for removing the seats you can drive 10mph faster?

I'm not doubting the theory, i just don't think it would wash if mr plod was vigilant enough to pull you in the first place...

Any way what makes a seat non removeable? the back seats in a golf are still removeable.....
 

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No worries for me then, mines a van, does 40mpg on bio all day long, I never go above 50mph on A roads, pay lower tax/insurance and it still looks as cool as fcuk :D
 
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