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Hi all I have a 2008 2.5 shuttle with a automatic gearbox I whish to change the oil and filter/strainer in the sump of the gearbox does anyone no which oil should be put in the VAG manual just says ATF but no spec I phone my local TPS and they could not help other than sell me the VW AFT at £84 for 5x1 ltrs which I think is a bit expensive :eek:
 

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Hi I agree it is not expensive compared to a new gearbox but VW do not make oil but the make a nice profit on it so there must be an oil make and spec out there that is the same but cheaper :)
 

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Where is the best place to get it changed as main dealers say sealed for life? looked at threads on changing it, as i'm ok on most diy stuff but mine doesnt seem to have fill point, its a 2008 2.5 bnz tip.
 

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Hi there oil change on these are complicated as when mine was done they had to have oil at certain temp I had new box last year due to drive shaft seal weeping blew box to bits on motorway 3 grand been back to guy who did my box 55 pounds for oil change
 

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So an auto box specialist rather than a vw specialist is the way to go?
Anyone recommend one around east cambs/suffolk area?
 

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Not sure how similar your auto box is to the Audi CVT box 1998-2004ish (which is a known lemon as apposed to the tiptronic box which was OK) - but they are all VAG - but they too have to be filled from underneath at a particular temperature.

Search out the Audi forums for instructions. Opie Oils (as mentioned) are the best for Auto tranmission oil & it is the same spec as VW/Audi. And although they say the transmission oil is for a 'lifetime' the concemsus on Audi forums is that it should be changed every 40K.

Very good gearbox specialists are A1 Premier Transmissions in Biggleswade - who rebuilt mine.
 

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I did mine the other day ,I used the Titan 4400 from opieoils ,the one in the link
All I did was measure all I took out and put the same in ,I used 7litres
Take the sump off and catch the oil (around 4L) then change the filter.
Put the same amount of new oil in the filler point ( I took the red cap off mine then extended elbow with pipe and used a funnel so it could be filed at high level )
Then remove the pipes than go to the oil cooler pipes from the front of the gear box ( has a single 13 mm bolt to hold the two pipes in)
Refit the pipe nearest the engine and then use the return pipe as a drain .
Get someone to start the engine and take out one litre at at a time
And refill at a litre at a time
Repete this untill the oil goes clean
That's how you can change the oil that's left in the valve body and torque converter
But remember to put the same amount in that you take out .
Total costs with new gasket filter and oils was around the £120 mark and a few hours
 

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Hi contacted my local TPS today they told me the correct VW part no for ATF oil is G055025A2 then contacted me local Euro Car Parts they told me the compatibal of from them is Triple QX ATF DX III and 5 lts from them is £24 plus vat
Has anyone used this oil in there Auto gearbox
 

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When it comes to oils don't skimp on cost. Sure it might be compatible stuff but even if the oil is a hundred quid it's still a small fraction of a new gearbox! Even then you'd still need to fork out for the oil!
 

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Be careful, as some of the universal ATFs (auto trans fluid) that are available aren't truly universal.
Simply quoting "Dexron 3" for example isn't good enough.
Make sure that the oil you are getting actually states the vw spec that is quoted in the handbook.
If it doesn't, then it isn't suitable.
End of.

Here's why.
Different auto gearboxes use oil with specific friction modifiers that work in conjunction with the friction lining materials.
Use an oil that doesn't have these friction modifiers, and the linings won't slip (or grip) when they should, and you will break something.

Always use ATF that has the correct manufacturers specification number, or use the manufacturers own oil.

The dsg boxes are pretty complex, and use wet clutches to control the take up of the drive - when you are pulling away from standstill, it's actually a clutch that is slipping, not a torque converter - so the selection of the oil is even more important, as is its periodic replacement.

Also, if you change the oil, be ultra mega careful that you do not introduce any dirt etc into the gearbox. Always use a Lint free cloth, as any foreign matter can screw up an auto box.
 

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Just ordered the special tool vas 6262/2 from eBay. £30 odd. VW want £160 for the same thing. Done mine once already but it was so bad I think I'll do it again. I agree that anything is better than a replacement gearbox.
 

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Hi thanks for all the information decided in the end to go with the original oil looking at the advice from you members .
looking at getting the oil back into the gear box I found that I had a GUNSONS EASYBLEED Brake Clutch Fluid Pedal Bleeding Systems Ford VW from time back and if you remove the cap that goes on the brake reservoir the threaded union left on the end of the plastic pipe screws straight into the sump then you just fill the bottle with fluid and pressurize from your tyre and away you go much cheaper that the vag 6262/2 kit the easy bleed are sold on ebay for around £15 this only means you can pump in 1/2 lts at a time but no mess and when you run up the gearbox as per vw instructions you can drain back in the same bottle cheap but it works A: A:
 

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Hi thanks for all the information decided in the end to go with the original oil looking at the advice from you members .
looking at getting the oil back into the gear box I found that I had a GUNSONS EASYBLEED Brake Clutch Fluid Pedal Bleeding Systems Ford VW from time back and if you remove the cap that goes on the brake reservoir the threaded union left on the end of the plastic pipe screws straight into the sump then you just fill the bottle with fluid and pressurize from your tyre and away you go much cheaper that the vag 6262/2 kit the easy bleed are sold on ebay for around £15 this only means you can pump in 1/2 lts at a time but no mess and when you run up the gearbox as per vw instructions you can drain back in the same bottle cheap but it works A: A:
Brilliant idea! I was about to buy the special tool until I found your post - thanks for sharing......
 
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