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T30 shuttle auto. 05. 140,000. only had 3 months. bought with limiter service history for £7k. new turbo fitted.

now - gear change is thudy, especially when warmed up and in lower gears up and down.

had diag and showed fault on solenoid 2. 0026 solenoid 2-N89

oil black and smell burnt (thats what gagrage said not me)

what to do? is this a clocked van or jyust not serviced in long time. bought from polish builder who regularly went to poland and previously a taxi.

i have no idea if to try and fix, recon whole thing or get new one.

garage says - must fit entire valve chest as solenoid not available individually. if fitting valve chest, black oil means new ones will probably get ruined too as the cause of the black oil is word clutch plates, so they reckon to get a whole reconed transmission and fit entire thing.

Cost £3000

i simly dont have that money. most i can raise is £1k

garage said they will fit a box i take in for £500, so can i get a recon or a reconned box for £500 anywhere, or is there a temp repair i can do until i have th money to change whole box?

any advice really appreciated as i copletely at a loss as to what to do, and the issue is getting worse every week, and im worried the thing will just stop working.

thanks people for your time and experience.

im in north London.
 

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You can buy the solenoids seperately, I build auto's for a living. The burnt/black oil could be the fact the perticular clutch pack that has the faulty solenoid is slipping which generates heat and burns the oil. It could also be that it has carried a lot of weight all it's life and allthough an extra oil cooler is reconmended for the transmission it's very rarely anyone listens as they always know best. It could also be that the ATF has never been changed. Automatic transmissions are always overlooked when a vehicle gets serviced, a lot of transmissions are filled for life from the factory now. If the transmission is reconditioned properly look at getting around 80-100k out of it,(the transmissions i build get a 3yr 300000 kms warranty) :eek: if like most they will only replace the clutch pack that is damaged reseal the box and say it's a reconditioned box which we all know it isn't but that is what happens more often than not. Just do your home work on whoever you choose to recondition it. Good luck
 

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Having had to had 2 boxes rebuilt in as many years i have found there is no short cut to getting this box right apart from rebuild, the boxes also suffer from the internal drum cracking (im not sure of exact part name, maybe dubstylez can cast some more info on that) shuddering, dropping gears, late pulling off just a few of the symptoms, on box had only covered 50k the other 143000
 

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Hmmm. Ok thanks for all the tips guys.

Does anyone think that it might be OK, to replace the solenoid only and change the oil and filters, as a temporary measure until i can raise more funds? Surely this will cure the fault and give the box a little life for a while?

£1800+VAT seems almost doable but i still wont have that for a month or so, i can either continue to drive and hope to god it doesn't go bang, or replace the solenoid only and change the oil and filters now and run it for another month or two and then do the whole thing.

Thanks,

Ian
 

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I was quoted £150 for replacing the box oil and filter by the garage that quoted £3k to recon it.

I cant find cost of entire valve chest or solenoids online? any ideas?
 

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There a £1000 on there own , you could try and clean it your self
The garage in the link are the main suppliers for them have a chat
But I think do it right the first time or you are throwing money away
 

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Is the Valve chest in a place where i could realistically get to it without lifting the van up?

I wonder if its worth trying to clean the solenoid and change the oil + filter, and see how that works until i have the money for the full recon.

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if i go for the full recon, how do i know the garage does everything it should (as Dubstyle suggested), as there seems to be a big difference in price from one to the other, like £700. is asking for the old parts going to prove anything.

Thanks again everyone for the support here.
 

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Hi all,

Sorry to resurect an old thread, but I'm hoping it might get me to the right people/solution. I have been suffering from the same issues as above, bad shifting especially when hot. Anyway, I have got a fully reconditioned box in now, and it is still doing the same thing! Before I go back to the guy that did it and start shouting, should he have replaced the valve chest as a matter of course in this case? The gearbox needed doing anyway (clutch pack major fault), I understand that, and I checked up on everything while the guy was doing it (took a long time for various reasons), but until now I didn't realise that it may well have been the valve chest that was making these other faults.

Basically, I'd had some rough shifting since I bought the van but only minor and when hot. Then it dissapeared, then it came back, and then the gearbox failed catastrophically and I couldn't get past 2nd gear. So that was the reason for the fully re-conditioned box. While this was being done at a cost of £1200, I was happy thinking it would also solve the rough shifting problems, but they are still there, and this is the first time I've found anything out about needing a new Valve section as well.

So my question is, should this have been done by the gearbox fella or do I need to start again and get the valve chest replaced aswell?! I love my van, but it is driving me crazy at the moment!

Thanks!
 

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I've had the same problems for a little while and took my 06 plate T5 to an auto gearbox specialist today. They confirmed that the gears are slipping. A couple of weeks back I had the transmission oil changed, but as I've had this from 35k (now 95k) and I didn't know it had to be changed (!), it won't surprise you that it made no difference, but for £150 i had to give it a try.

Sometimes the transmission thuds so hard it feels like the bottom of the van is about to fall out, other times it just slips, especially if you don't nurse it gently. The garage has quoted £1800 (ex Vat) for a rebuild of the auto gearbox, plus an extra £400 if the cooler needs replacing. They offer a 12 month warranty/guarantee. He says reconditioned just are worth the bother and I also asked him about a conversion to manual, but he said the manual 6-speed gearbox have problems too, would cost more and I'd need a decent donor vehicle too (although being an auto gearbox specialist would he say that anyway?)

Looking at other posts on here his quote sounds a fair price, but if anybody has a comment on this I'd be grateful to hear it.
 

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I had mine rebuilt , , went back , still , had the gearbox brain replaced , still , had the van converted to Manual by Trans4mers , end of problems , then 2ys later brought a new van , VW AUTO's ARE E , never ever again . good luck Fella Russ
 
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