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Im Intrested in this thread as i have bought the black ones for the same colour van , my question is did you use the HID wiring loom when fitting the lights from what im reading there is a lack of voltage to the headlights and the loom will increase this .
before i buy a loom i would be greatfull if someone could clarify this .

and if there is someone out there who has changed there loights who has a set of photos out there of all the bolt holes I know the bumper has to be removed in order to fit these lights i would like to the job in one go rather than going back and forth .

and if this loom is needed where is the best place to get one from please advise anyone who has been there and done this beforeT:
 

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the lead your talking about is from upspex on here but i wouldnt have thought it would change the colour mine are still an orange colour and im after blue white colour as for bolt holes for the lights theres 2 at the top of the lights an 2 on the plastic cradle thats fitted to the lights i used this for reference http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/fitting-caravelle-lights_topic18795.html very similar to a van bumper T:
 

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Just whack some HIDS in em and be done with it.

Too many boy racers using them so can't beat em....

Oh and Festas got them on his van too and look really nice and blue and loadsa lightT:
 

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Is the MOT law not changing about HID retro fitted lights or something?

Something about them having the ability to self level?

I don't know - one of those things I thought I heard somewhere???
 

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Just be careful 100W are only for off road ....def not legal for highway use
I'm mainly using them off road, if I get stopped on the way home from the circuit I'll swap them over for the 55w ones I've kept in the vanI:

Seriously though I don't expect them to be much good for the money, probably got blue nail varnish painted on themLOL:
 

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Nice one mate how bright are they though, are they better than the ones that came in the lights and do they light the road further than about 30 feet away.
 

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Nice one mate how bright are they though, are they better than the ones that came in the lights and do they light the road further than about 30 feet away.
not driven in the dark yet mate but are bright but i need to adjust mine the weekend as there on the floor I:
 

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Is the MOT law not changing about HID retro fitted lights or something?

Something about them having the ability to self level?

I don't know - one of those things I thought I heard somewhere???
Yep,

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).

For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.

Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:

1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.

In practice this means:

1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.

2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.

Full and further info - http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps.html
 
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