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Glow plug STUCK

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9.8K views 16 replies 5 participants last post by  beebok  
#1 ·
Hi all,

Yesterday (friday 13th) I went to renew the glow plugs on my 2006 1.9tdi T5 (which I've had less than a week!!). Plugs 2, 3 and 4 came out without a problem but plug 1 has got stuck. I managed to get plug about 2-3mm out but the hex nut now spins...GUTTED. :eek:

After a lot of upset, frustration and a near sleepless night I have come up with the following plan -

  • Get it to my mechanic - IS IT SAFE TO DRIVE??
  • Get front end stripped down (bumper, rad, intercooler and AC).
  • Get this guy out - http://www.threaddoctorservicesltd.co.uk/ - he should be able to remove the stuck plug in situ without removing the cylinder head for around £140.
  • Put it all back together and start enjoying my new purchase...
All in should cost around £500.

Does anyone else have any suggestion/tips/words of consolidation? Any advice will be greatly received.

Thanks
 
#4 ·
Youve learned this now but on some engines you really need to know that theyre prone to sticking or snapping glowplugs, there are a number of VAG engines falling into the risk category. Its not a decision you make lightly or without doing your research.

As long as the plug isnt dropping debris into the piston chamber and hasnt allowed compression losses you might be safe to drive, might, but its your risk and your decision.

In the worst case if extractors fail then the head will have to come off.
 
#6 ·
so it's moved 2-3mm out then just spins?? i am guessing you haven't snapped it?? have you tried warming the van up to temp and then squirting some penetrating fluid onto it??? I would try this a few times or even make up some pure acetone and 2 stroke oil solution and try that, i have used Kroil (hard to get over here) with great effect and also done the warming up trick each time I do these
 
#8 ·
Hi Iain, thanks for your reply.

My assumption (can't see that well down there!), is that the hex nut on the top of the plug has come away, leaving the rest of the plug including the thread in the engine. There is nothing to grip on now as the hex is just spinning and the top of the plug is really thin. Also, I tested with one of the old plugs with two sets of grips and the conductor and thread come loose from each other very quickly.

I don't really want to start it again just in case the glow plug is damaged, which could cause further damage to the engine. But yes, I warmed the engine up before attempting to take them out in the first place.
 
#10 ·
I find it really odd that the hex part spins but is still attached to the plug i have looked at on old set that i have in the garage and it looks like the hex is an integral cast (assuming that's how they are made) of the plug, the only other thing is that it's been rounded off which would explain why it's spinning, if you haven't got half stuck in the engine and the other half in your hand then I would say drive it.

Many years ago i had a spark plug thread go on an and engine and that blew the plug out out the hole due to the compression, so i doubt it will into engine as it's more than likely still seized in the head.

You can always try and have a look with a mirror and a torch or maybe try photographing it with your phone then it might give you an idea of what to do next.

Iain
 
#12 ·
Hi Iain,

Thanks for your reply and for looking at your old plugs.

Just after it happened I had a good look with a mirror and the hex looks fine. Also, you can turn the hex with your fingers and feel that the conductor is stationary. This suggests that the hex has become separated from the thread. It’s very thin steel as the conductor is insulated from the thread/hex.

Since the fiasco I spoke to a couple of guys that removed ceased plugs as well as other thread work. It’s apparently VERY common. ‘The Thread Doctor’ told me that he does 3,000 glow plugs a year, sometimes all of them are ceased in one engine!!!

It’s at the garage now with the front end stripped and the guy is coming on Monday to extract the pesky plug. Just looking forward to getting it back now...


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#17 ·
Got the van back. My mechanic said that The Thread Doctor was brilliant.

All up and running again now however it STILL misfires on startup from cold. Not sure where to with this now. It seems slightly better after putting some diesel treatment in and running on BP Ultimate, might be a coincidence.


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