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I can't believe it....
My pride and joy - LWB 2.4D with 132K on the clock AAB 1995 engine.
just pulling off from a light, bang!! and engine stopped dead. tried to restart a few times and figured things were not well from the sound.

RAC arrived - immediate Cam belt broken diagnosis. Towed to local garage who then rekon the cam shaft is bust without opening her up since he could move something or another??? (spot the heavy mechanical terms!!)
Local mechanic doesn't want to touch it ...

[email protected]!!! so far it seems my options are....

a) buy a reconditioned engine for around £1300 which will give a 12 month/12000mile warranty.
spoke to Essex engines and Van Engine Man.
anyone know any of these guys?

b) spoke to a highly recommended dude in Manchester who says he's rebuild loads after broken cam belts with good success - rough quote £1000. seems to really know his T4's

c) find a replacement engine from a breakers etc and swop out. won't know anything about the engine, true mileage etc....
can I replace with a different engine ie 2.4 Tdi or 2.5 etc or is it just too much work - only asking as it seems 2.4D engines are a bit rare at the moment!!

What do you guy's advise?
will a rebuild ever be right again?
anyone got a decent spare engine kicking around?

I feel a bit heart broken at the mo, as I was only gonna change the the cam belt last month but life just carried me away with other stuff and I put it off!!! now I'm kicking myself....:*:eek:I:
 

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id say jump on the 1.9tdi bandwagon mate and get yourself a mk3 golf or b3 passat tdi donnor car
 

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You'll need a new/reconditioned cylinder head, and *possibly* a new camshaft - and to have them fitted - but you're very unlikely to need a whole new engine.

Probably what the local garage did was try to rotate the camshaft sprocket - he felt movement so *assumed* the camshaft was broken - but the sprocket is a friction fit and may just be loose on a perfectly good camshaft.

It's all guess work until the head comes off.
 

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You'll need a new/reconditioned cylinder head, and *possibly* a new camshaft - and to have them fitted - but you're very unlikely to need a whole new engine.

Probably what the local garage did was try to rotate the camshaft sprocket - he felt movement so *assumed* the camshaft was broken - but the sprocket is a friction fit and may just be loose on a perfectly good camshaft.

It's all guess work until the head comes off.
Mine slipped the other day by 5 degrees which was enough to give a tappety noise. I just caught it in time, re timed the cam sprocket and all is well again. It can happen.
 

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I hear you about the Camshaft and getting the head off to see what's really up!T:

I was under the impression that once the timing belt goes, so many things go wrong - bent valves, pistons, vavle seats etc that the engine never really runs the same again - this is all hearsay - I know almost zilch about engines.

so possibly it's ok to simply rebuild???:confused:
 

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The bottom end (pistons/conrods/crankshafts) are very robust, with a very good chance of surviving a cambelt failure.

The piston crowns are likely to have *some* damage - but I was advised this was unlikely to be significant. I replaced my cylinder head with a reconditioned unit - and indeed the damage to the piston crowns wasn't a problem, I did 120K in that van afterwards.

(My old van was a 1.9TD, and an exhaust valve broke, striking a piston and deadlocking the engine).

Find a garage willing to take the head off, and take it from there.

I got my recon head from a company in Nelson, Lancashire - I think called A W Engineering?

Small outfit, he specialises in recon VW diesel heads, gave me plenty of free telephone advice - recommended.

The recon head will come with new valves already fitted, all the necessary gaskets and bolts - you (or your garage) refit the camshaft, new belts (you but a cambelt kit too), swap the injectors and turbo to the new head etc.

I did this about 5 years ago - and I *think* I paid about £275 for the recon head kit.

First things first, you need that head off, to decide if you're buying a recon head or a recon engine.
 

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Thanks RubberBiker:ILU:
I will follow that lead up and definately get my head off (oh yeah!!!) and find out what needs doing?
Cheers dude!!! :)
 

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Oh ya, I'd heard that the 2.4D was a lot more susseptable to timing belt damage than the 1.9 -

anyone know???
 

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Just thought I'd add an update on this one...

got the head rebuilt with new Camshaft, new valves, waterpump and all associated parts.
cost around £790 all in.

Since done 38k and lots of good kitesurf trips...

highly recommend Steve Gatehouse in SouthamptonT:
drop me a line if u need his details.
 
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