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Sorry there are no progress pictures, it was eight o'clock at night and p:cing it down.

There are many good threads detailing how to replace the rear springs which I read and followed. The only difference is I changed the shock as well.



Following morning in a rare bit of sunshine it took this



Any one else considering using the KW kit; Dennis is no racing snake, having been converted to a camper van, and he now tips the scales at a tad over 200kg with both of us in it.

How to lower the front and replace the front shock will follow in a later post.
 

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And so to the front.
Again there has been much written about lowering the front but not much about replacing the shocks. One thread includes an exploded diagram which proved useful.

first thing I wound down the front using the suggested ratio 10mm of thread equals 25mm of lower.


here you can see the left wound down and the right still in it's original postion.

I then jacked up the front on to axle stands and removed the wheels. I placed a bottle jack under the wishbone to take the weight once the shock was removed.

Using two sockets I released the nut and bolt retaining the bottom of the shock


then used a drift to knock the bolt through the shock


To remove the top of the shock, the mount plate need to be removed first.

undo this bolt

and this one

and you get this.


into the garage for that third hand, having removed the old shock offer the new one up like this



I used a pair of adjustables and a spanner to tighten the mount.


Replace in the reverse order.
and it should look something like this







The Plan now is to get the tracking and camber sorted by GuppaP in Plymouth tomorrow and run it for the week before parking it somewhere flat to finally adjust the front. I think it's still slightly nose up and I'd rather have it nose down slightly.
Again I think it's worth mentioning that Dennis weighs over 2000kg so bear this in mind when considering which kit to go for.

Happy lowering
 

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Nice thread.
Are you sure you want to get your camber and tracking done now before your final adjustment? Won't it get thrown off again if you wind the front down later?
 

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welcome to the kw club, nice work guys:ILU:
Agreed top workT:
Excellent walkthrough,Great pics nice job! T:
Thank you, I figure I've got so much help and advise from here that the least I can do is offer my limited knowledge. it's good to share.:grphg

As the saying goes "a picture paints a thousand words" and for those of us with reading "issues" are worth every pixel

Nice thread.
Are you sure you want to get your camber and tracking done now before your final adjustment? Won't it get thrown off again if you wind the front down later?
You were quite right, but luckily I had got the front measurement dead on.A: Although at the rear there is a difference of 10mm with no obvious reason the technical chaps say this isn’t a difference to be concerned about.T:

So for £90 I got the camber, toe in and caster adjusted as well as confirmation that everything seems to be in the correct place. :db

Unsurprisingly I now NEED to drive the van to work tomorrow.:tu 25 miles of twisty country lanes!
:ILU: More to follow. :ILU:
 

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'Cor blimey, I need to move down south, I only charge 1 hour to set the camber and tracking, and my labour rate isn't £90!!
You're always welcome down our way, whether you'll be understood is another matter!H:

GuppaP came recommended by the wheel supplier, another VW & T4 owner. I didn't take the van across but had several phone calls letting me know what was going on and that they were able to adjust caster (?) as well, which incured an extra cost! and when i got home this report had been produced.

I figure I'll save the money on getting extra mileage from the tyres.
 

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Done mine last weekend, so thought I'd do some pics of the back in progress to compliment the pick of the front above.

First I discussed with Simon Baxter at Brickwerks exactly what my requirements were, and concluded that the KW kit was the job. Got onto the Brickwerks website and ordered a set, few days later a box like this turned up.



So, van started off like this.



Jacked it up and put it on an axle stand. Took the wheel off, then supported the suspension arm with the jack.



Undid 2 bolts, one at the top and one at the bottom of the shock and removed the shock.



Dropped the jack down a bit and the spring came loose. Rubber spacer also on top.



All the old parts look like this



New spring in with the rubber spacer on top



New shock bolted in



Wheel on and drop it back on the ground. Now looks like this



Now just waiting for it all to settle for a few weeks and it's off for tracking, camber etc
 

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Hi
I'm new to T4's pick mine up tomorrow.
New alloy Wheels in the kitchen and rear spring's waiting to go on.
Is the last picture and the first picture the wrong way round
Cheers
T4musclebus
 

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Hi,

No, the pictures are correct. I was going from being "far too low" to "sitting just right". Van was much lower that the first pic to start off with, but was looking a bit higher as I'd done the other 3 wheels already.

John
 

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I'm ready to change the suspension on my van.

Was going to use either the KW set up or some Billies, anybody using either.....your comments would be much appreciated.
 

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Your all going to call me a div for asking this but, i know you have to jack up the front when your changing the shocks but can you adjust the torsion bars with the wheels on the ground?:*
 

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I know this has been done to death will be lowering mine this weekend, just wanted to know when you say 10mm of thread equals 25mm of lower where is that taken from are you saying 10mm from the bottom of the bolt.

Cheers

Mick
 

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I know this has been done to death will be lowering mine this weekend, just wanted to know when you say 10mm of thread equals 25mm of lower where is that taken from are you saying 10mm from the bottom of the bolt.

Cheers

Mick
10mm is 10mm...no matter where you measure from/to....as long as you use the same places each time!
But, yeah...measure from bolt bottom to nut bottom...

NOT all vans are the same....I had to wind mine 30mm to get a 45mm height difference.
 

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Thanks to jane, rob and dennis for the pics showing front shock change, will be changing mine on saturday and was a bit stumped as to how to remove the old ones but its all clear now.
 

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And so to the front.
Again there has been much written about lowering the front but not much about replacing the shocks. One thread includes an exploded diagram which proved useful.

first thing I wound down the front using the suggested ratio 10mm of thread equals 25mm of lower.


here you can see the left wound down and the right still in it's original postion.

I then jacked up the front on to axle stands and removed the wheels. I placed a bottle jack under the wishbone to take the weight once the shock was removed.

Using two sockets I released the nut and bolt retaining the bottom of the shock


then used a drift to knock the bolt through the shock


To remove the top of the shock, the mount plate need to be removed first.

undo this bolt

and this one

and you get this.


into the garage for that third hand, having removed the old shock offer the new one up like this



I used a pair of adjustables and a spanner to tighten the mount.


Replace in the reverse order.
and it should look something like this







The Plan now is to get the tracking and camber sorted by GuppaP in Plymouth tomorrow and run it for the week before parking it somewhere flat to finally adjust the front. I think it's still slightly nose up and I'd rather have it nose down slightly.
Again I think it's worth mentioning that Dennis weighs over 2000kg so bear this in mind when considering which kit to go for.

Happy lowering
In the middle od doing mine got back done no problems ...fronts doing my head in.......the bolt that you are undoing in pic five is just turning and is turning the top bit too can't get spanner on it or nout :bhd any help appreciated ....away back out to stare at it :eek: it might give up I:
Ok sorry didn't mean to babble on.... got welded up and is sorted now ,it's a stud on the top mount and is not meant to move ...anyway as mentioned you can get a spanner on it if you slice it to make thin enough to fit ......but in my wisdom I made it round ........if a mod reads this you can delete as please
 
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