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This can be done quite easily without the tool just use a 3 pronged puller on the top, get some tension on it give the arm a whack with a hammer to shock it, then just wind it out the rest of the way.T:
 

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Not a fan of using a chisel/jack/randon bit of metal to hold the arm up. If that comes out while your hands are inside you could easily end up with broken bones and a trapped crushed hand.

Simply winding the torsion nut out makes it safe and the van even easier to work on.
 

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The tools makes the job easy, but the one thing i will add is i always use a bit of heat to get the old joint out, apart from that its made top ball joints easy to change
 

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I replaced all 4 balljoints 3 days ago. I used a 'C'-clamp. A fork was used to break the cone. I did not have to take off the castor/camber adjuster. I locked the torsion spring with a long socket. When it was ready to be removed, I gave the top a sharp whack with a heavy hammer and it moved about a millimeter.
 

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Hi everyone - really helpful thread thank you

Ive got to do this job on both sides for my MOT

Cheapest I can find the tool for is £160 is there anyone in the North Cornwall/Devon area who might hire me there's?
I'll happily put money toward borrowing it otherwise I'll have to have a go without :(

Thanks
 

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can help if people dont fancy them selves

Supply and fit top and bottom ball joints,genuine oints both sides for £215 in bristol if anyone needs any help - £245 to most other locations dependant on huge miles lol

genuine price inc labour which helps customer..

give me a message if anyone needs any help

Cheers simon
 

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Hi everyone - really helpful thread thank you



Ive got to do this job on both sides for my MOT



Cheapest I can find the tool for is £160 is there anyone in the North Cornwall/Devon area who might hire me there's?

I'll happily put money toward borrowing it otherwise I'll have to have a go without :(



Thanks


I used a simple C clamp to change mine.


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Sorry, but good luck with that.
Looks like the Chinese Cheese metal ones. :eek:
Easy to spot, as they ALWAYS say "free case included".....costs them an extra 10p to have them made!

There's a reason why the tool varies between almost £200 and £50.

Last cheapo one I used split in two with a big bang!!!

Joint never moved though...so at least the van was saved!

@Indian:
I guess that "simple C-Clamp" was quite a well made one...NOT purchased at Biltema!?!?!? (Non Scandie people, Google Biltema.no)
Cheap tools....some good, 80% cr*p :eek:
 

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UPDATE- I have been attempting to do this job over the last few days. No luck in borrowing or finding a hire place so on ebay bagged a bargain. And also got extra £10 off voucher so made it £53 result
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T4-FRONT-AXLE-UPPER-BALL-JOINT-EXTRACTOR-INSTALLER/113303883081?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Sorry, but good luck with that.
Looks like the Chinese Cheese metal ones. :eek:
Easy to spot, as they ALWAYS say "free case included".....costs them an extra 10p to have them made!

There's a reason why the tool varies between almost £200 and £50.

Last cheapo one I used split in two with a big bang!!!


to be fair, I've an ebay special balljoint tool, looks identical to the one as linked...

bought it a few years ago for ~ £50 delivered from Holland.

it's worked faultlessly, lost count of the ammount of joints it's replacedT:

admittedly I keep it stripped & cleaned after each use then oil the threads before use....

some time the threads will need replacing but this I would expect from a more expensive tool:*

the Chineese quality is catching up with what we expect from euro & North American companies - although their prices are creeping up (now they have removed some of their competitionI: )



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to be fair, I've an ebay special balljoint tool, looks identical to the one as linked...

bought it a few years ago for ~ £50 delivered from Holland.

it's worked faultlessly, lost count of the ammount of joints it's replacedT:

admittedly I keep it stripped & cleaned after each use then oil the threads before use....

some time the threads will need replacing but this I would expect from a more expensive tool:*

the Chineese quality is catching up with what we expect from euro & North American companies - although their prices are creeping up (now they have removed some of their competitionI: )



Rich.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1 China is pretty much the biggest producer of steel and aluminium. So even if the tools are not manufactured there, they may originate from Chinese raw materials anyway :mw
 

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You can find on Amazon, I got mine for € 86 from Amazon.de, postage is cheaper to Italy & VAT

The only difference I can see to the Sealey is the box color, having been in China looking at how this works it all comes from a small number of factories but in huge volume & is sold branded & generic worldwide, but I think it’s a good idea to get one as these will be obsolete in a few years as the T4 wheel bearing tool already has, unless you take the hub off it’s a pain in the ass, I got a T5 tool & modified it € 68 (bodged).
 

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Having been in China looking at how this works it all comes from a small number of factories but in huge volume & is sold branded & generic worldwide
Yup China is really the hub of "Factory Asia", having taken 30 million people out of poverty and given them skills their raw materuials are now shipped to other countries, to take advantage of 'cheap labour' ;)

Many years ago when shipping from there; we used to call China "1000% China". Now even if you visit the trade fairs and source carefully those levels of profit margin, simply don't exist any more. The reason they are able to produce in such volumes is they have created the most amazing manufacturing infrastructure.

In this country people used to scoff at a 'Made in China' label ........................ you don't see many made in GB, or for you older types like me 'Empire Made' labels these days :(
 

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In this country people used to scoff at a 'Made in China' label ........................ you don't see many made in GB, or for you older types like me 'Empire Made' labels these days :(
Dont forget the ripp-off culture of a few years ago.......

Made in BrittishLOL:

Rich.
 

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Just making a start on mine as it failed the MOT, jacked the hub up until upper arm hit the bump stop and wedged it in, lowered the hub but didnt clear the joint, i guess some mild levering down will be in order.
Awesome guide though complete with torque settings :ILU:
 
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