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How come they concentrate on the building and associated trades only?

There are loads of dodgy garages and so called "specialists" in all sorts of motor industry trades to give just one example.

I'm sure other areas have them too but why is it that they concentrate on them?
 

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no no no :no


i know it's called cowboy BUILDERS but my point is why only pick on the construction trades :*
 

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Is it because the bogus electricians blew themselves up ? And the bogus motor traders broke down before they got there ? T:
 

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Confidence trickster, con man, yep, I'd say that was right T:

Shouldn't be so easy to start up as another company the next day IMO :(
 

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Should do "cowboy customers".

Amazes me when you do a job and no mention of money.

Very rare the customer asks if you want anything up front.
Never during.

And the end. You can never seem to find them. Gone shopping. Still at work etc.

I've got a good customer base which go back 12 years and always have plenty of work. Only this evening had to turn down a 28k extension as they wanted it started now. Been waiting for me for a month but when I said can't start for a least another month they said do you mind if we offer it to the next in line?

Didn't really know these guys and who knows, might of been non payers!

Lost so much money over the years by people going bankrupt on me that I think I'll stick to the small in and out jobs.

There's always two sides in the building game believe meY:
 

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Should do "cowboy customers".

Amazes me when you do a job and no mention of money.

Very rare the customer asks if you want anything up front.
Never during.

And the end. You can never seem to find them. Gone shopping. Still at work etc.

I've got a good customer base which go back 12 years and always have plenty of work. Only this evening had to turn down a 28k extension as they wanted it started now. Been waiting for me for a month but when I said can't start for a least another month they said do you mind if we offer it to the next in line?

Didn't really know these guys and who knows, might of been non payers!

Lost so much money over the years by people going bankrupt on me that I think I'll stick to the small in and out jobs.

There's always two sides in the building game believe meY:
I'm on kitchen extension at moment. 10k job. Done work for the bloke before and as you say above was always popping out just before end of day. The amount of fuel used having to go back to jobs to collect payment is a joke. This extension I agreed 5 payments at the end of each stage. Making sure I go round with him showing everything in stage done.
If its not done then I don't get payed and if he don't pay I don't move on to next stage. That way it should never get anyone into a right mess. One payment left so all good so farT:

Does amaze me how some of these clients on show pay 30k+ within a few weeks of a job starting and only have 5k of work/materials to show for it. I never ask for payment upfront on labour side of things. I also think builders/trades who rip off people should have more force from the law coming down on them. How many court orders do you hear of that not a single penny has been payed back years later. Have a home builder round here that goes bankrupt every few years owing thousands to company's but always seems to be driving a new porsche:(
 

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I also like this one........

Client- "she's decided on 3 velux windows in a combo flashing"

Me- "the price was for a standard fully tiled roof and frame works done! Going to cost you £400 extra for fitting windows now"

Client-" you mean I have to pay extra to have them"

Me" well the rafters ain't going to adjust themselves, windows won't jump in, flashing wont put it self together and tiles don't cut themselves either"

Think he got the point on what's involved and what happens when you make changes after things are well under wayLOL:
 
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