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One minute talking about spending $Billions on war.
Bombing Syria and Iran.

Next minute. They have to shut down the Gov because they have no money.
Millions of people starving on food stamps and living in tents.




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Home of the Fee.
 

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I hope it keeps up...

Going over there in November, waiting for the dollar to fall over so we can act like millionaires over there!!!
£1->$1.45 a month ago... massive fall to $1.61 now!!! Hope it keeps going ;)
 

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One minute talking about spending $Billions on war.
Bombing Syria and Iran.

Next minute. They have to shut down the Gov because they have no money.
Millions of people starving on food stamps and living in tents.




Land of the slave
Home of the Fee.
Never been any different, normal Joe has always been one minor accident away from destitution..

We shouldn't feel left out though, we're heading that way fast...
 

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Never been any different, normal Joe has always been one minor accident away from destitution..

We shouldn't feel left out though, we're heading that way fast...
Funny that Dave C didn't know the price of a loaf of bread.
It'll be about £10,000 soon.


Inflation will smash America to bits very very soon.
We will catch that cold too.
 

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Just find it ironic that a country that can't govern itself seems to like telling others how to govern theirs.
 

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Funny that Dave C didn't know the price of a loaf of bread.
It'll be about £10,000 soon.


Inflation will smash America to bits very very soon.
We will catch that cold too.
I have no clue how much a loaf of bread is.... and I'd much prefer my Prime Minster to know other stuff, rather than the price of grocery's. :*
 

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Funny that Dave C didn't know the price of a loaf of bread.
It'll be about £10,000 soon.
Illustrates the dreamworld these people live in. No connection whatsoever with anything outside Downing St.

I saw the shut down yesterday and I was surprised about how low key and calm, well empty actually) it was in the American parliament. Again it gave me the impression they don't give a hoot.
 

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I have no clue how much a loaf of bread is.... and I'd much prefer my Prime Minster to know other stuff, rather than the price of grocery's. :*
Funny, I was thinking the same myself. So what if the PM doesn't know the price of bread? Gordon Brown didn't seem to know the value of gold, but still sold several Tonnes of the stuff at rock bottom prices when he was chancellor.
 

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Just find it ironic that a country that can't govern itself seems to like telling others how to govern theirs.
This is my point.
Millions on food stamps. (Over 25 Million)



But they got money for bombs.
They can pay for weapons for Al Qaeda
They got money to open a new NSA spy centre that cost $2 Billion.
They got money to spend on Billions of hollow point rounds incase of civil unrest.




But clothe and feed people?





The fed is printing money like there is no tomorrow.
Which is diluting the Dollar.
Which is going to cause hyper inflation.


China owns their debt.
When they default. China will seek to recover what they owe through physical wealth confiscation.




That's how paper works.


It's about swapping worthless paper money.
For real physical wealth.
 

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Funny, I was thinking the same myself. So what if the PM doesn't know the price of bread? Gordon Brown didn't seem to know the value of gold, but still sold several Tonnes of the stuff at rock bottom prices when he was chancellor.
Ah. But he did.
He knew very well the cost.
He did that to bail out Goldman Sachs.

Who had a gun to his big fat head.



It was the cost of not selling the gold to Goldman Sachs coberg Gotha that Gordon couldn't afford.
 

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Illustrates the dreamworld these people live in. No connection whatsoever with anything outside Downing St.

I saw the shut down yesterday and I was surprised about how low key and calm, well empty actually) it was in the American parliament. Again it gave me the impression they don't give a hoot.
Obama making it look like it's the other side.



When it's the fed running the show.
The federal Reserve is The American arm of the Crown. (The City of London)
It's no more Federal than federal express.
It is owned and run from "the City"


Obama is a puppet.


He couldn't run a soapy stick up a dogs ass.
 

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I hope it keeps up...

Going over there in November, waiting for the dollar to fall over so we can act like millionaires over there!!!
£1->$1.45 a month ago... massive fall to $1.61 now!!! Hope it keeps going ;)
All the places like Yosemite and the Statue of Liberty are shut.
They can't pay the bods. So the attractions stay shut.

Federal shutdown hits Southland; Yosemite visitors urged to leave
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77620955/


Hope you get a good deal when you go tho. T:
TSA are still working. So they'll still be able to check up your hoop for traces of Al Qaeda.


Can you get me some diamond gusset jeans?
 

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That is another point.


America Admits they created Al Qaeda.
Which creates terror.
So they set up other agencies to try and catch the terror. :*


So what's it all about?
Slave training?
Control through fear?


The underwear bomber. Was even helped onto the plane by the FBI.
And the next day x-ray scanners were rolled out.





So they US government know that their security services are the terrorists.
Yet they force everyone to undergo invasive security checks before you enter their country.


Is there some Al Qaeda in your water sir?
In your child's pants maybe?
How about your Nan's wheelchair?



When the federal agencies trained and payed for all the terrorists in the first place.
Al Qaeda are Islamic mercenaries payed for by the CIA.
 

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Obama making it look like it's the other side.



When it's the fed running the show.
The federal Reserve is The American arm of the Crown. (The City of London)
It's no more Federal than federal express.
It is owned and run from "the City"


Obama is a puppet.


He couldn't run a soapy stick up a dogs ass.
Sorry my point was that as a direct result of this people will suffer and yet there wasn't anybody there looking to resolve the issue. To me it sounds like it should have been all hands to the pumps but obviously not in politics world.

My opinion of politicians remains completely unchanged.
 

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Sorry my point was that as a direct result of this people will suffer and yet there wasn't anybody there looking to resolve the issue. To me it sounds like it should have been all hands to the pumps but obviously not in politics world.

My opinion of politicians remains completely unchanged.
Well. I agree with that too.




America will crash very soon.
The military is preparing for unrest.
Rather than buy food.
They bought bullets to shoot the rioters!
Billions of hollow point bullets.

I'd have made sure people were ok myself.



But the plan isn't to look after people. :no
It is to destroy the United States.
 

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Take a look at the programs and policies that will not be affected by a government shutdown, and you’ll get a clearer sense of the government’s priorities—priorities which, as I point out in my new book, A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, have little to do with serving taxpayers and everything to do with maintaining power and control, while being sold to the public under the guise of national security.

Domestic surveillance. On any given day, whether you’re walking through a store, driving your car, checking email, or talking to friends and family on the phone, you can be sure that some government agency, whether the NSA or some other entity, is listening in and tracking your behavior. Police have been outfitted with a litany of surveillance gear, from license plate readers and cell phone tracking devices to biometric data recorders. Technology now makes it possible for the police to scan passersby in order to detect the contents of their pockets, purses, briefcases, etc. Full-body scanners, which perform virtual strip-searches of Americans traveling by plane, have gone mobile, with roving police vans that peer into vehicles and buildings alike—including homes. Coupled with the nation’s growing network of real-time surveillance cameras and facial recognition software, soon there really will be nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.

NSA domestic programs. Government shutdown or not, the National Security Agency (NSA), with its $10.8 billion black ops annual budget, will continue to spy on every person in the United States who uses a computer or phone using programs such as PRISM and XKEYSCORE. By cracking the security of all major smartphones, including iPhone, Android, and Blackberry devices, NSA agents harvest such information as contacts, text messages, and location data. And then there are the NSA agents who will continue to use and abuse their surveillance powers for personal means, to spy on girlfriends, lovers and first dates.

Global spying. The NSA’s massive surveillance network, what the Washington Post refers to as a $500 billion “espionage empire,” will continue to span the globe and target every single person on the planet who uses a phone or a computer. The NSA’s Echelon program intercepts and analyzes virtually every phone call, fax and email message sent anywhere in the world. In addition to carrying out domestic surveillance on peaceful political groups such as Amnesty International, Greenpeace and several religious groups, Echelon has also been a keystone to the government’s attempts at political and corporate espionage.

Roving TSA searches. If there is any absolute maxim by which the federal government seems to operate, it is that the American taxpayer always gets ripped off. Indeed, one of the greatest culprits when it comes to swindling taxpayers has been the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), with its questionable deployment of and complete mismanagement of millions of dollars’ worth of airport full-body, X-ray scanners, punitive patdowns by TSA agents and thefts of travelers’ valuables. Considered essential to national security, TSA programs will continue, not only in airports but at transportation hubs around the country.

VIPR Strikes. Under the pretext of protecting the nation’s infrastructure (roads, mass transit systems, water and power supplies, telecommunications systems and so on) against criminal or terrorist attacks, VIPR task forces (comprised of federal air marshals, surface transportation security inspectors, transportation security officers, behavior detection officers and explosive detection canine teams) will continue to do random security sweeps of nexuses of transportation, including ports, railway and bus stations, airports, ferries and subways. VIPR teams will also be deployed to elevate the security presence at certain special events such as political conventions, baseball games and music concerts. Sweep tactics include the use of x-ray technology, pat-downs and drug-sniffing dogs, among other things.

USA Patriot Act, NDAA. America’s so-called war on terror, which it has relentlessly pursued since 9/11, has chipped away at our freedoms, unraveled our Constitution and transformed our nation into a battlefield, thanks in large part to such subversive legislation as the USA Patriot Act and National Defense Authorization Act. These laws—which completely circumvent the rule of law and the constitutional rights of American citizens, re-orienting our legal landscape in such a way as to ensure that martial law, rather than the rule of law, our U.S. Constitution, becomes the map by which we navigate life in the United States—will continue to be enforced.

Militarized police state. Thanks to federal grant programs allowing the Pentagon to transfer surplus military supplies and weapons to local law enforcement agencies without charge, police forces will continue to be transformed from peace officers into heavily armed extensions of the military, complete with jackboots, helmets, shields, batons, pepper-spray, stun guns, assault rifles, body armor, miniature tanks and weaponized drones. Having been given the green light to probe, poke, pinch, taser, search, seize, strip and generally manhandle anyone they see fit in almost any circumstance, all with the general blessing of the courts, America’s law enforcement officials, no longer mere servants of the people entrusted with keeping the peace, will continue to keep the masses corralled, under control, and treated like suspects and enemies rather than citizens. Just recently, the Dept. of Justice—clearly not suffering from a shortage of funds—approved grants totaling $3.2 million to fund law enforcement jobs and expand community policy, and that’s just in Virginia.

SWAT team raids. With more than 80,000 SWAT team raids carried out every year on unsuspecting Americans for relatively routine police matters and federal agencies laying claim to their own law enforcement divisions, the incidence of botched raids and related casualties will continue to rise. Nationwide, SWAT teams will continue to be employed to address an astonishingly trivial array of criminal activity or mere community nuisances including angry dogs, domestic disputes, improper paperwork filed by an orchid farmer, and misdemeanor marijuana possession.

Domestic drones. The domestic use of drones will continue unabated. As mandated by Congress, there will be 30,000 drones crisscrossing the skies of America by 2020, all part of an industry that could be worth as much as $30 billion per year. These machines will be able to record all activities, using video feeds, heat sensors and radar. A recent Inspector General report revealed that the Dept. of Justice has already spent nearly $4 million on drones domestically, largely for use by the FBI, with grants for another $1.26 million so police departments and nonprofits can acquire their own drones.

Schoolhouse to jailhouse track. The paradigm of abject compliance to the state will continue to be taught by example in the schools, through school lockdowns where police and drug-sniffing dogs enter the classroom, and zero tolerance policies that punish all offenses equally and result in young people being expelled for childish behavior. School districts will continue to team up with law enforcement to create a “schoolhouse to jailhouse track” by imposing a “double dose” of punishment: suspension or expulsion from school, accompanied by an arrest by the police and a trip to juvenile court. Just recently, in Virginia, two seventh graders were suspended for the rest of the school year for playing with airsoft guns in their own yard before school.

Overcriminalization. The government bureaucracy will continue to churn out laws, statutes, codes and regulations that reinforce its powers and value systems and those of the police state and its corporate allies, rendering the rest of us petty criminals. The average American now unknowingly commits three felonies a day, thanks to this overabundance of vague laws that render otherwise innocent activity illegal. Consequently, small farmers who dare to make unpasteurized goat cheese and share it with members of their community will continue to have their farms raided.

Privatized Prisons. States will continue to outsource prisons to private corporations, resulting in a cash cow whereby mega-corporations imprison Americans in private prisons in order to make a profit. In exchange for corporations buying and managing public prisons across the country at a supposed savings to the states, the states have to agree to maintain a 90% occupancy rate in the privately run prisons for at least 20 years. Just recently, California entered into a 5-year contract to have Geo Group house their inmates to the tune of $30 million annually.

Endless wars. America’s expanding military empire will continue to bleed the country dry at a rate of more than $15 billion a month (or $20 million an hour). The Pentagon spends more on war than all 50 states combined spend on health, education, welfare, and safety. Yet what most Americans fail to recognize is that these ongoing wars have little to do with keeping the country safe and everything to do with enriching the military industrial complex at taxpayer expense. In fact, given that Al-Qaeda’s capability to penetrate the American homeland is nil, the chances of dying in a terrorist attack are miniscule.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...ms-not-affected-by-a-government-shutdown.aspx
 

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That is another point.


America Admits they created Al Qaeda.
Which creates terror.
So they set up other agencies to try and catch the terror. :*


So what's it all about?
Slave training?
Control through fear?


The underwear bomber. Was even helped onto the plane by the FBI.
And the next day x-ray scanners were rolled out.


So they US government know that their security services are the terrorists.
Yet they force everyone to undergo invasive security checks before you enter their country.


Is there some Al Qaeda in your water sir?
In your child's pants maybe?
How about your Nan's wheelchair?


When the federal agencies trained and payed for all the terrorists in the first place.
Al Qaeda are Islamic mercenaries payed for by the CIA.

Classic David Icke, problem, reaction, solution!
 

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What's more interesting is watching the news and listening to people bleating about how bad things are after one day.

One woman, whose husband is a White House lawyer said they didn't know how they will cope.

WTF????? Does nobody save money for a rainy day any more? Are powerful people that reliant on their next pay packet that they can't cope with a few days off work? If there are White House lawyers struggling to cope after a day, then I count myself really lucky I'm not a high flyer. There's enough food in my cupboards for a couple of months and enough money in savings to pay my mortgage for longer. People need to wake up and get some sense of reality instead of living on credit.
 
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