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Hi. Has anyone out there got one of these fitted in their campers. at a fraction of the price of a UK one. They look the part but what about quality especially safety.
 

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I have one on the way mate.

Ordered after my mate fitted one in his bus and reported no issues 2 months down the line.
 

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Do a search on the yachting sites and forums. These are well discussed and critiqued. Some are copies of Eberspachers and some of other makes. Goggle is your friend.
 

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We've heard about it and it seems the popularity is growing quite rapidly!

I'm not on Facebook, but apparently there's a big group with people testifying its quality, function, installation, reviews, etc. Have a search on Facebook.

There's a debate on whether if it's at EC standard or the standard the UK industry accepts for this sort of product, after-market service, repair, returns, etc.

But for a price at a fraction of the "genuine" product, it's tempting.
 

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My feeling (and it is just a feeling from my own point of view) from reading reports, feedback - both good and bad - is that these Heaters are a good value buy for DIYers who are happy and competent to fit it themselves, and fiddle around with them - and they don't expect as much from the heater. (For example, the Eberspacher Controllers are much better then then the controllers you get with the Planars. The Eber' 801 you can set a specific temperature on the digital display; On almost all the Planars on sale, you get a basic dial control with no numbers on).

Installation of an Eberspacher and a Planar look identical to me - and if getting someone to fit a heater for you, it won't be cheaper to install becuase it is cheaper to buy, so the price percent difference between the two is not that great anymore.

If I were paying a company to install a Diesel Heater, they would be installing an Eberspacher;
If I were relying on the Heater (say I was full-timing in the van), I would be installing an Eberspacher (reliability and backup);
If the heater failing was just an inconvenience on a weekend away, I would go for the Planar (price).
 

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I have been sitting on the fence observing said facebook group, 2kw seems to be the go to for transporter sized vans, the glow pin seem prone to failure, however many have replaced it with the eberspacher d2 one which seems more robust. Some have had a variety of issues, and have claimed DOA, but many have been fine or there has been a reasonable fix. There's has been some issues with difficult ebay sellers, otherwise there does seem to be some that are a bit more reliable. There is a member of a company called drivworld on the group that has tried to be helpful - they don't sell on ebay, and seem to charge a little more but claim a superior product.
 

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My feeling (and it is just a feeling from my own point of view) from reading reports, feedback - both good and bad - is that these Heaters are a good value buy for DIYers who are happy and competent to fit it themselves, and fiddle around with them - and they don't expect as much from the heater. (For example, the Eberspacher Controllers are much better then then the controllers you get with the Planars. The Eber' 801 you can set a specific temperature on the digital display; On almost all the Planars on sale, you get a basic dial control with no numbers on).

Installation of an Eberspacher and a Planar look identical to me - and if getting someone to fit a heater for you, it won't be cheaper to install becuase it is cheaper to buy, so the price percent difference between the two is not that great anymore.

If I were paying a company to install a Diesel Heater, they would be installing an Eberspacher;
If I were relying on the Heater (say I was full-timing in the van), I would be installing an Eberspacher (reliability and backup);
If the heater failing was just an inconvenience on a weekend away, I would go for the Planar (price).
Hoovie, I think summed up VERY nicely T:T:

As for the Chinese being a 'fraction' of the price, well it may be. But to my mind it's still a pretty big fraction, and worth more serious consideration. With regard to DOA, may well be more ebay scammers wanting one for free I:
 

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Hiya,

I was there in the early days on the Facebook page, bought three to test to destruction and all are still working.

If you want to know anything just fire away, I have one outside heating my workshop and exposed to all the elements and still working fine.

I'll give you a few pointers:

1. There are three different controllers, dial, LCD with no timer and LCD with timer

2. Eberspacher D2 glow plug fits but you need to splice the wiring because the connecter is different

3. The thermostat is built into the controller

4. It will coke up if you run it on low, a bit like a DPF without an Italian tune up

5. The quality is very good and the T5 Eberspacher brackets fit for mounting it under the drivers side

6. It pulls about 10amps on start up and then settles down to about 2.6amps

7. Vent heat output is about 120c but ramps down much lower when temp is reached

8. No louder than an Eber as i bench-tested both side by side

9. Will run better on central heating oil as it's a cleaner burn

10. It's a direct clone

11. I have tried to kill two of mine, they are fine and still going strong

12. You pay your money and you take your chances as there is no real warranty

I'm sure I missed a few things, but that gives you the basics.
 

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9. Will run better on central heating oil as it's a cleaner burn
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This is very interesting.
I was planning to run at least initially on Kerosene (heating oil) as it meant I could check it out without the hassle of dropping the fuel tank, plus it is cheaper (50p/L vs 120p/L). I didn't know it was actually better! A:
That's a bit of a bonus and probably won't bother to tap in to the tank at all and just use an external can T:
 

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This is very interesting.
I was planning to run at least initially on Kerosene (heating oil) as it meant I could check it out without the hassle of dropping the fuel tank, plus it is cheaper (50p/L vs 120p/L). I didn't know it was actually better! A:
That's a bit of a bonus and probably won't bother to tap in to the tank at all and just use an external can T:
Is there space under the T5 for this mate?
 

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Having used Eberspächer for 40 years, installed hundreds and have an 18 year old Eber in my Cali camper, I'm with Eber.

But having said that... I can see the attraction, to replace many parts in an Eber can cost the same as installing a new Chinese heater, it all depends on what your priorities are, service is mostly missing for many Chinese products, durability unknown.

Eber's have a expected service life of 10 years, hours use are not an issue, in the 80's I was using an Eber for 6 years every night for 4 months, my Eber is 18 yr old and has not been serviced or repaired, if it ain't broke don't fix it, I carry a glow plug & gauze shield, although as it's underneath it's not a simple job to change, maybe I should carry a pump?, the controller is a VW only part (not Eber) so could probably buy 2 Chinese heaters.

So you decide, if you need a heater buy it, if you have an Eber stick with it as long as you can afford it, we winter camp so it's essential
 

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I had a planar heater fitted by one of the main uk dealers, who caused £400 damage in the process. They refused to accept responsibility and have gone silent ever since. I wish I’d paid more, went for one of the big brands, and benefitted from their after care. If anyone wants to know who it was, get in touch privately, I don’t want to name names on here.


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I fitted a Planar 2D to my T4 last week, dead easy to fit and does the job and for 425 quid a bargain. There is loads of info out there on the Planar heaters and are very common in boats. Mine came with the better LCD timer not the dial.
No idea what the cheaper Chinese ones are like from ebay but i would think by the time you get collared for import tax it wont be far off the price of \ Planar anyway.
 
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