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OK as the title, for opinions and experiences.

Just to remember I have a Multivan (with climatronic). So sliding middle window offside; and smaller rear quarter internal dimensions, not to mention roof mounted seatbelts and their quarter panel guide clips.

I was using a genuine Silverscreens external on the front /cab ................ more of that later.

Now looking to cover all the other windows. Rightly or wrongly I dismissed the cheap options (I'm not a brand snob), so I thought no Summit or Maypole; and for the living area (middle and rear quarter windows), I opted for NRF. Now NRF are an Italian company, but their products are also marketed by others including Reimo.

I knew they would be 'a bit of a compromise', but they really are NOT suitable for my Multivan (read Caravelle too).

So first question has anyone found something that really is a good fit for a passenger version?

With that experience, I have not even considered the tailgate in all of this ................. unless you know otherwise?

Back to the Silverscreen, it is now deteriorating to the point where it is leaving a silver coating on my nice blue A pillars; so not long for the bin!

So second question, who is using windscreen and front window internal thermal mats; and are 100% happy with them. If yes what brand are they please?

I'm looking at fit, finish; quality of materials etc. Having initially gone for a better brand, of which the fit seems a compromise (almost a one size fits all job, and not even remotely suitable). I would value opinions from actual users, rather than just buy a set from each company until I am happy. The pension does not stretch to that sort of frivolity these days LOL:

If Mrs Scuffytoo was still alive she would have manufactured them for me, and I could be assured they would have been 'spot on'. Very sadly just not possible :blg

If you got to the end, and can even be bothered; I would value other users opinions / experiences.

Cheers.

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these are curtains not blinds but....

https://baimex.de/products/curtains-for-busses-vans/5/car-curtains-vw-t4-all-models?number=BMX002.0.25

full set for a caravelle with cab devider & windscreen curtains for 135Euro + post from GermanyT:

when I ordered a set there was a bag containing 'spare' aluminium rails aswell as all the screws, drill bits & even 'posi-drive' type screwdriver bits (for use in drill-driversT: )

the 'spare' rails are to adapt the drivers / rear curtains to suit the caravelle 'blower' type - something I've still not doneI:


also, the front has a few options, one is a cab devider curtain & theres the option of a cab curtain similar to the california item that weaps around inside the cab (I have this & it works well:cool:

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these are curtains not blinds but....

https://baimex.de/products/curtains-for-busses-vans/5/car-curtains-vw-t4-all-models?number=BMX002.0.25

full set for a caravelle with cab devider & windscreen curtains for 135Euro + post from GermanyT:

when I ordered a set there was a bag containing 'spare' aluminium rails aswell as all the screws, drill bits & even 'posi-drive' type screwdriver bits (for use in drill-driversT: )

the 'spare' rails are to adapt the drivers / rear curtains to suit the caravelle 'blower' type - something I've still not doneI:


also, the front has a few options, one is a cab devider curtain & theres the option of a cab curtain similar to the california item that weaps around inside the cab (I have this & it works well:cool:

Rich.
Hi Rich, as always it's good to have your input; on this and all other subjects :ILU:

I have the factory curtains as do all MV's, but I am specifically after experiences of people using the internal thermal blinds / mats. As I said it will hopefully help avoid me buying a set of every one in the marketplace; just to make my own mind up which ones are the best to use T:T:

It's so easy on the Hymers as they have factory made items. Bit late in the day looking into this on the MV, considering I have had this one almost 20 years (never ever expected to). But will be using it in a different way for the future LOL:LOL:LOL:
 

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Rich.
No worries ....... I always think if I had Baimex curtains, I would just need a nice lamp on the pop up table; and it would look like a bloody Pullman Carriage :jmpg:jmpg:jmpg
 

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As a reply to question #2, I bought a set of both External Thermal Covers (windscreen + cab windows) and Internal Thermal Covers (Screen and cab windows as before) from these guys in Italy .... https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/camperbroshop

Mine were for the VW LT so I can't comment directly on how a T4 set would be, BUT ... I am very pleased with the quality of both the internal and external sets and wouldn't hesitate to check them out first to buy another set for another vehicle. Great fit on both and a good price. Even the bags they come in are great quality!


As an aside, the Baimex Curtains are very nice aren't they? :D Had them in my T5. I just used bubble-foil as thermal window screens on the side windows, kept in place by the pullup mesh screens you get on the Caravelles and Shuttles. Perfect T:
 

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As a reply to question #2, I bought a set of both External Thermal Covers (windscreen + cab windows) and Internal Thermal Covers (Screen and cab windows as before) from these guys in Italy .... https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/camperbroshop

Mine were for the VW LT so I can't comment directly on how a T4 set would be, BUT ... I am very pleased with the quality of both the internal and external sets and wouldn't hesitate to check them out first to buy another set for another vehicle. Great fit on both and a good price. Even the bags they come in are great quality!


As an aside, the Baimex Curtains are very nice aren't they? :D Had them in my T5. I just used bubble-foil as thermal window screens on the side windows, kept in place by the pullup mesh screens you get on the Caravelles and Shuttles. Perfect T:
Hi Hoovie, thanks as always for your considered input.

Yes what you have sounds like product manufactured by NRF in Italy (same as the living space one's I have purchased). I agree the quality of the product can't be faulted, but It looks like they are more of a one fits all for the T4 rear (probably fit T5, Transit, Vivaro and the like too).

You have given me some hope now that maybe the screen and front window set is much more 'tailored' to the individual vehicle model. We always tell everyone buy cheap buy twice, I am looking at the quality end of the market; and still worrying about buying twice LOL:LOL:LOL:LOL:

Funnily enough I have been looking into rolled foil layered insulation type materials (used in the home construction industries), with a view to making something myself. Good quality suckers are readily available, so maybe for the living space, and in the absence of Mrs Scruffytoo; that may become my chosen plan of attack.

Thanks once again for your kind response T:
 

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Yup, the eBay listings in that shop show the same vehicle for lots of different product (probably a Ducato I would guess) but the screens are tailored for the vehicle listed.
The screens I bought were marked up for the Sprinter (00-06) and LT specifically - and they really do match the profile exactly - at least as far as the Cab Area goes.

Talkng Suckers, that is something that impressed me with the internal ones from them - built to last (I think and I hope!).
I noticed when finding the link that they have the "make it yourself" kits as well which are not cheap but probably reflect the materials to a fair respect. might be worth comparing their kits with the materials, grommets and suckers which you may be sourcing yourself?

off-topic a little maybe, but I have discounted using screens with Suckers for any windows rear of the cab area as concerned that the sucker pulling action will likely pull the tint-film away from the glass over time (and the better the sucker, the more likely and faster this will happen!).
 

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off-topic a little maybe, but I have discounted using screens with Suckers for any windows rear of the cab area as concerned that the sucker pulling action will likely pull the tint-film away from the glass over time (and the better the sucker, the more likely and faster this will happen!).
Adams are the best, and they have a little release tag on the side (bit like a TomTom base for example), so you release all the pressure without any real 'pulling' action.

If I had foil on my windows, I still think like yourself; I would have certain concerns too :eek:
 

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Funnily enough I have been looking into rolled foil layered insulation type materials (used in the home construction industries), with a view to making something myself. Good quality suckers are readily available, so maybe for the living space, and in the absence of Mrs Scruffytoo; that may become my chosen plan of attack.
If you do decide to make some up I can vouch that they do work well,I made all mine(when I say I,I mean me and the misiss)two layers of foil covered in material and suckers T:



 

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If you do decide to make some up I can vouch that they do work well,I made all mine(when I say I,I mean me and the misiss)two layers of foil covered in material and suckers T:



You know Alex, the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that is the way to go. Yours is the sort of fit in the window apertures that I want to achieve.

Thanks for taking time to respond and share the images T:T:
 

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No worries,I was originally going to buy van X but when I phoned up to order they told me I had to get premium as mine is a caravelle (apparently different internal window surrounds?)and I think they were about £240 so decided to have a go at making some and they turned out really well,complete black out,I think it cost roughly £70,yes it would be easier to have curtains but for a £170 saving I'll manage sticking them up and pulling them off when I go camping,I've got the usual black external cab cover but I will do the cab windows the same at some point T:
 

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No worries,I was originally going to buy van X but when I phoned up to order they told me I had to get premium as mine is a caravelle (apparently different internal window surrounds?)and I think they were about £240 so decided to have a go at making some and they turned out really well,complete black out,I think it cost roughly £70,yes it would be easier to have curtains but for a £170 saving I'll manage sticking them up and pulling them off when I go camping,I've got the usual black external cab cover but I will do the cab windows the same at some point T:
Yeh, my MV has the factory pop on curtains, a few minutes to fit; BUT NOT THERMAL :(
 

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Yeh, my MV has the factory pop on curtains, a few minutes to fit; BUT NOT THERMAL :(
Are you looking to use the thermal blinds in conjunction with the factory curtains or instead of? Just thinking when you mentioned the factory curtains, do they use press-ups to secure? If so, you could use them as the templates and make blinds with stud fittings and reuse the existing mounts for a great OEM look.
You could even have "female" studs on side and the "male" on s the other to allow you to still use the factory curtains at the same tjme?.
 

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off-topic a little maybe, but I have discounted using screens with Suckers for any windows rear of the cab area as concerned that the sucker pulling action will likely pull the tint-film away from the glass over time (and the better the sucker, the more likely and faster this will happen!).
Forgot to mention I have trialed these: Ebay item number 111974021982 (sorry link goes to my account, so item number only).

They work really well, the 'R' clip fitting allows the blind to be removed; but the sucker stays in place for easy re-fit ...................... just a thought :*:*
 

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Forgot to mention I have trialed these: Ebay item number 111974021982 (sorry link goes to my account, so item number only).

They work really well, the 'R' clip fitting allows the blind to be removed; but the sucker stays in place for easy re-fit ...................... just a thought :*:*
interesting idea T:
Currently I am using basic bubble-foil with velcro on the corners. Works ok but is just short-term as the carpet I had put on the surrounds gets damaged a little on each removal :(
(On the rears I am trying out little magnets at the top and the bottom of the blinds)
 

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interesting idea T:
Currently I am using basic bubble-foil with velcro on the corners. Works ok but is just short-term as the carpet I had put on the surrounds gets damaged a little on each removal :(
(On the rears I am trying out little magnets at the top and the bottom of the blinds)
Hoovie, before I asked the question (which I do VERY sedom), I had tried out a few things, and given others some thought. But was interested as to what people were doing in a similar situation,

I had considered other means of attachment (as you say hook-and-loop), but my interior is mint, and like most T4 things irreplaceable, so I do not want to go sticking things on it :eek:

This was another alternative that came up whilst searching: https://www.campervantastic.com/product/roof-and-window-insulation/vw-t4/100-701-111-brandrup-vw-t4-inside-isolite-front-thermal-screen/

Looking at the steady sales of these and others, I hoped for user feedback; maybe not being sold to Forum members :*:*
 

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We have a T5 Multivan with pull up blinds. We don't get the variety/options in our marketplace. One's we do get are pricey. We bought
a 7 mtr off cut roof insulation which is about 3mm thick foam silver lined both sides and ali reinforced tape. First iteration was to fit inside the windows, We found the insulation (heat) not that effective on the front and rear windows. Current version is inside the side windows, two piece for the mid doors so we can have the windows partially open - are tucked in behind the top blind clips. They are stiff so stay tucked in. Front we tuck under the blades and us a fat bungy strap looped to the front door grab rails... being on the outside it means the glass doesn't pick up the heat. Rear we used glued on magnetic strips across the edges.. care not to scratch the paint when dirty...

Cost about GBP 70 time a day if your fussy

Store them against the back of the 3 seatter

Got the insulation from Bunnings which may have closed in your marketplace - any building trade shop will have it...
 

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We have a T5 Multivan with pull up blinds. We don't get the variety/options in our marketplace. One's we do get are pricey. We bought
a 7 mtr off cut roof insulation which is about 3mm thick foam silver lined both sides and ali reinforced tape. First iteration was to fit inside the windows, We found the insulation (heat) not that effective on the front and rear windows. Current version is inside the side windows, two piece for the mid doors so we can have the windows partially open - are tucked in behind the top blind clips. They are stiff so stay tucked in. Front we tuck under the blades and us a fat bungy strap looped to the front door grab rails... being on the outside it means the glass doesn't pick up the heat. Rear we used glued on magnetic strips across the edges.. care not to scratch the paint when dirty...

Cost about GBP 70 time a day if your fussy

Store them against the back of the 3 seatter

Got the insulation from Bunnings which may have closed in your marketplace - any building trade shop will have it...
Thanks for your long distance input T:T:T:

Yes Bunnings take over of Homebase, was a disaster, they made the stores look like an indoor car boot sale. They have put the 'botched job' up for sale again .... but we have many alternatives LOL:LOL:LOL:LOL:LOL:
 
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