[Orion]

Anyone on here got a Cali Beach? Just wondered what is on their V5?

In 2019 it said MPV since then reverted back to "Motor Caravan" ( lot cheaper tax. ). According to most Cali forums I searched anyway.
If you read the Jerba links in my post above it explains everything about how manufacturers can do this and home brew cannot.
Basically you have to convert an unregistered brand new vehicle.

not sure about a cali beach ,i believe when registering from new its a different scenario
however i've also seen in a separate forum a letter from DVLA that states body type doesn't distinguish speed limits

Motor Caravan body type trumps the DVLA classification of N1. Again read the Jerba links above.

 

[BitterandTwisted]

Does it not just say 'overpriced' in that box on the V5 ? 🤪

 

[mrshells]

Does it not just say 'overpriced' in that box on the V5 ? 🤪

 

[Orion]

friend at work was done in his transit crew bus with fitted side windows but nothing on the rear doors police told him is need rear windows

You will get fined if Plod says it looks like a commercial van. One side window or 10 windows all round, doesn't matter.

You might also get fined if your "campervan" just has side windows / rear window externally. I guess quite a few of us now have the infamous "van with windows".

But as mentioned earlier for those of us with full conversions it's not the end of the world!

if you wish to retract any fine successfully then the van MUST look like a "motor caravan" internally.

So a form of bed, furniture, living requirements - ideally fridge and sink /hob etc. I.E a Campervan not a work or day van

This has been tested and proved after confirmation with the Head Of Road Policing in the U.K. ( again see Jerba link above )

 

[kev1379]

i let you all know as i have just sent my photo etc to dvlc to get change from van to camper van (I hope) i have done all thy say you need to do, but wait and see if thy will change logbook over

 

[Orion]

i let you all know as i have just sent my photo etc to dvlc to get change from van to camper van (I hope) i have done all thy say you need to do, but wait and see if thy will change logbook over

If you still have your T5.1 with pop top then I am afraid to say you have wasted a stamp. Unless it has a HIGH TOP roof ( not pop top ) then you have zero chance.

Sorry mate. On the brightside though it will come back as "van with windows" !

 

[BitterandTwisted]

👆 he speaks the true

 

[mrshells]

i let you all know as i have just sent my photo etc to dvlc to get change from van to camper van (I hope) i have done all thy say you need to do, but wait and see if thy will change logbook over

lets see what happens
best of luck

 

[BitterandTwisted]

It'll be interesting to see what they say .
There is a list of criteria online - Converting a vehicle into a motor caravan (motor home)

 

[DAN@ADRIAN FLUX]

Hi.
Just to let you know that the majority of our insurance schemes don't require the vehicle to be re-classified as a motorhome with the DVLA.
Regards,
Dan.

 

[BitterandTwisted]

So Dan would it be valued as replacement of a 'van with windows' or 'motor caravan' should it be a total loss ?
(Assuming it not on an agreed value policy)
Theres obviously a big jump pricewise between an empty van and a fully kitted camper so does it need to be specified exactly how much has been ploughed into these to ensure that in the event of a claim you get realistic replacement value back?

 

[Orion]

It'll be interesting to see what they say .
There is a list of criteria online - Converting a vehicle into a motor caravan (motor home)

If it's not a high top roof then I can assure you it will be "van with windows". 100%. Not changed since mid 2019.

Are we going to run a book on this? I have money on the table if so. 🤑🤑🤑

 

[BitterandTwisted]

My money is still on 'van with windows' but be interested to hear what the dvla come back with and any reasons why . .
We're building a crafter next so be interested whether theyre as awkward over reclassification of that too .

 

[geoff123]

I still intend to submit my high top for a reclassification, just the table and graphics to do now. Geoff.

 

[Orion]

Should be fine Geoff! Just make sure its plastered with those ludicrous "motorhome" graphics!! 🤞

Useful info here including DVLA PDF checklist and submission form.

How to Re-register as a "Motor Caravan" with the DVLA - Base Campers ®

We often convert campervans from everyday panel vans. Re-registering as a motor caravan has lots of benefits. Find out how to change classification here.

www.basecampers.com

 

[Orion]

For those with standard low or mid roofs or pop tops on their vans here ( in black and white on the DVLA submission form ) is why you will not get a reclassification.

I don't know why it is still so difficult to accept or explain after nearly 4 years! I honestly thought everyone in the campervan world was aware of this by now.

Got to admit though I missed my T4 reclassification by just 1 month in 2019.... Came back with the good old "Van with windows"

As Dan says, Adrian Flux are happy to insure whatever. "Van" speed limits are also no issue ( car speeds with a full conversion! ). So who cares really?

I think they know this and were just fed up with the literally thousands of home brew and amateur conversions flooding in.

It is what it is unless they have a change of mind in the future. Maybe they will?

 

[geoff123]

Should be fine Geoff! Just make sure its plastered with those ludicrous "motorhome" graphics!! 🤞

Useful info here including DVLA PDF checklist and submission form.

How to Re-register as a "Motor Caravan" with the DVLA - Base Campers ®

We often convert campervans from everyday panel vans. Re-registering as a motor caravan has lots of benefits. Find out how to change classification here.

www.basecampers.com

Thanks Orion, I think that I should be OK, but I have heard that it is very difficult to get the DVLA to reclassify vans now. In the past it was no problem, but today??? we shall see. Geoff.

 

[64 SPLIT]

With regards to speed limits, a good number of day-van conversions that aren't full blown campers (kitchen units, bed & table etc.) can be classed as dual-purpose vehicles, provided they have seating in the rear and cargo space but more importantly side AND rear windows. Details are on the DVLA website. This will allow you to get a speeding fine removed.

 

[Orion]

With regards to speed limits, a good number of day-van conversions that aren't full blown campers (kitchen units, bed & table etc.) can be classed as dual-purpose vehicles, provided they have seating in the rear and cargo space but more importantly side AND rear windows. Details are on the DVLA website. This will allow you to get a speeding fine removed.

Yep, should have mentioned that. Nice to have a get out clause considering how much everything else seems "anti van" at the moment ( looking at you Emperor Khan...)

 

[M0BUS]

I'd be interested to hear if theyre actually reclassifying these on change of ownership....there were rumours of this
a while back but not heard anything recently.

Just bought mine and it stayed as camper van on the log book.