[mike&sue]

Thanks M&CS for the sensible advice- will def be getting it reclassified once the conversions all finished

 

[M&CS]

Thanks M&CS for the sensible advice- will def be getting it reclassified once the conversions all finished

not 100% there with the answer yet... but, getting there! I was advised verbally that motorhomes are not subject to emission banding, trying to get in writing is a different story all together. What i have been told when I asked about criteria for conversion was...

The vehicle is required to display the following characteristics in order to meet the interpretation of “Motor Caravan”:-


Seats and a Table



integral part of vehicle living accommodation area, (mounted independently of other items)
table capable of being mounted directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall
table mounting arrangement secured is a permanent feature, (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded) although table may be detachable
seats secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side-wall
seats secured as a permanent feature, (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)
Sleeping Accommodation



integral part of vehicle living accommodation area
either beds or beds converted from seats (to form a mattress)
secured as a permanent feature, (with base structures bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall, (unless provision over driver’s cab compartment)
Cooking Facilities



integral part of vehicle living accommodation, (mounted independently of other items)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall
secured as a permanent feature, (bodied, riveted, screwed or welded)
minimum of two ring cooking facility or microwave equipped in either case with fuel/power source
Storage Facilities



cupboard / Locker
integral part of vehicle living accommodation (mounted independently of other items, unless incorporated below seat/sleeping accommodation or the cooker)
secured as a permanent feature (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall (unless provision over driver’s cab compartment) ​

If your vehicle meets the above, it is reclassed as a camper! No mention of emissions, this was the reply to my question of converting my '06 Plate!

Hope this helps and good luck, if I get any further i will be updating this thread, I know of a few being stung by this!

Andy:ILU:

 

[daisy mae]

I just don`t understand all the different tax bands.

I have a 2002 T4 Topaz, 2.5tdi it is on the tax form as motor caravan, I paid £275 for 12 months, must admit I was a bit taken aback, as it was a lot more than my 2.4 diesel Volvo estate, I believe that if it was newer, the tax would be cheaper, also if the vehicle was older, I may be wrong on this, I am looking to change it for a VW T4 Autosleeper Clubman, with a 2.5tdi engine, have yet to find out the tax on that one, if I can find one that is, they are as rare as hens teeth, would only have VW T4 base though, I love them.

 

[mike&sue]

Thanks Andy

 

[M&CS]

I just don`t understand all the different tax bands.

I have a 2002 T4 Topaz, 2.5tdi it is on the tax form as motor caravan, I paid £275 for 12 months, must admit I was a bit taken aback, as it was a lot more than my 2.4 diesel Volvo estate, I believe that if it was newer, the tax would be cheaper, also if the vehicle was older, I may be wrong on this, I am looking to change it for a VW T4 Autosleeper Clubman, with a 2.5tdi engine, have yet to find out the tax on that one, if I can find one that is, they are as rare as hens teeth, would only have VW T4 base though, I love them.

I don't think you are alone with that... i'm not convinced they know themselves!H: It's due to a change in law from april 06, when the classifications changed, vw kept the Co2 levels on 'crew cabs', this meant they were classed as cars... which meant they had high emission for the class they were in, after 2006, they stopped stating CO2's which reduced the tax bracket. Before then it didn't matter. If you contact DVLA they'll send you a vehicle tax classification document, which, lists all bands from cars to hgv's... this doesn't include motorhomes!

Basically in the case of the T5 '06 plates there has been an administration error... a few of us have fallen foul of. This is where i'm approaching the DVLA from... why should a vehicle taxed on a specific date be higher tax rated than vehicles registered either side of it especially when they have the same engine!!!!??? They can't answer me

Andy:ILU:

 

[andynick69]

interesting this,im in the process of maybe getting a 07 plate kombi,where do i stand with this?

 

[M&CS]

interesting this,im in the process of maybe getting a 07 plate kombi,where do i stand with this?[/QUOTE)

Get the full reg. if you can and check it out on line would be your first port of callT:

 

[KatieBun]

Just had the reminder for our 2.0 140ps t5.1 converted panelvan :

12 months £140

6 months £77

About half what our 2.5tdi t4 was.

Some late t4s and early 2.5 t5s are harshly expensive.

What year's yours, Big Cat?
Is it a T28,30 or 32? Your description fits ours and we're paying 220 for 12 months.

 

[M&CS]

Well, I finally got an answer from DVLA, if you can call it that! Basically, they will not tell me how much road tax will be, this information will only only be given on change of log book! Why, I don't know, I believe it's because they've messed up in the first place! Basically, any conversion to an '06 (ish) 2.5TDi is subject to the approval i've posted, so you are at risk!

When it comes to change of log book I would suggest you gather as much information on other similar vehicles, which, have been converted and are in the lower lower tax band. I would suggest this to include '55 - 07 models! Then hound them!!!

Good luck

Andy:ILU:

 

[kitvan]

I have a Shuttle (06) from new £400+ tax also a Shuttle (07) £280 tax weird. Both exactly the same and 9 seats. If you have a 9 seater you can get a £10 pass into London for a year (congestion charge)!!!!!I:

 

[M&CS]

it's took me 7 weeks and 11 emails, but, i've finally got a sensible answer out of DVLA!

In 2006 DVLA introduced emission banding to vehicle taxation class. this put any 2.5tdi classed as PLG into the high tax band. This included shuttles and combi vans. Any vehicle taxed before this date wasn't affected, to stop this VW simply stopped putting emissions on the V5, so vehicles taxed after this date were not affected either.

The bottom line being DVLA will not change the TAXATION classification on an 06 Plate even when it is converted to a full camper, they say the vehicle was originally taxed on emissions and therefore cannot be changed. I've also found; It may be possible to have it reclassed as a private HGV and then convert it to a motorhome this actually reduces the TAX 140 per annum which is even better! Watch this space!

Andy:ILU:

 

[M&CS]

T32 Tax 2.5TDi Road Tax

could the owners of T32's Pre & Post '06 let me me know the cost of road tax. would specifically like to know anyone with a camper!

cheers in advance andy :ILU:

 

[chezzy71]

Doesn't need to be HGV needs to be LGV goods vehicles are not affected by emissions based tax, either way it can't be classed as HGV because its weight isn't enough....

 

[M&CS]

Doesn't need to be HGV needs to be LGV goods vehicles are not affected by emissions based tax, either way it can't be classed as HGV because its weight isn't enough....

Yes! Sorry, was meant to say LGV! As you know limit for HGV is 3500kg! I'm currently pushing DVLA as to this blip in the system, 19 emails to date with typical 'computer says no' type answers, just got a response saying they are carrying out a full investigation. If they'd read my emails properly this should've happened 6wks ago! They don't like to be wrong!

It's down to seating/windows and emissions, registered as a PLG, my van currently has a fixed bulkhead and workshop in the load area, it's never been a car and is a commercial vehicle. If I can get it changed it'll mean road tax is 140 not 480 so worth pushing for:ILU:

 

[n3tto]

Looking at a 58 T32 2.5 130BHP Kombi and the tax is £475??

Putting me off as its alot to pay every year....Is this right as i thought only 06 vans were affected :*

 

[littlebluevw]

Looking at a 58 T32 2.5 130BHP Kombi and the tax is £475??

Putting me off as its alot to pay every year....Is this right as i thought only 06 vans were affected :*

Yep mine is an 07 T: just go for it it is only 1.30 a day well worth it I:

 

[M&CS]

Looking at a 58 T32 2.5 130BHP Kombi and the tax is £475??

Putting me off as its alot to pay every year....Is this right as i thought only 06 vans were affected :*

Do you mind saying how much you are looking at paying. This help me gauge where i'm at! via a OM if you wish,T:

The way DVLA have explained it to me is the Combi, or Shuttle, etc, are classed as PLG due to the number of windows and seating capacity, PLG is CO2 dependant so even after converting they won't reclass.

Yep mine is an 07 T: just go for it it is only 1.30 a day well worth it I:

Those are actually my sentiments! Unfortunately, due to other personal issues I could do with selling it, but, had no sensible offers due to the tax. An interested party actually paid for new rear discs and MOT'd it, then, backed out at the last minute Hence me looking into trying to changing it!:*

 

[rob13]

Interested if someone could answer this for me as I've just put a deposit down on a 2005 1.9 85hp. Its currently a professional wheelchair carrying conversion by Versa and as its on motability its £0 road tax. When I buy it, it wont be on motability, so what will it be?



Its also listed as N1, so if I was to show the DVLA photos of the conversion, could it be converted to M1? Is type approval fairly straight forward or are there costs involved?

 

[n3tto]

Won't you have to pay the premium to change the vehicle? Looking at £999

Just kidding I'd of thought £230/260

 

[rob13]

DVLA says £280 for 12 months. Bit steep isnt it?!