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#1 ·
As a newbie to the T5 world I have had an issue 3 days into owning it. I have bought a 2007 2.5tdi auto which has been a mobility vehicle since new. It's a T30 SWB with factory fitted side windows. The seller assured me the annual road tax would be £225 as a light goods vehicle. I went to my local post office today only to be told it was £490.
I obviously kicked off with the poor postmaster followed by several calls to the DVLA who told me to fill in a form V62 and class it as a light goods vehicle and not a private light goods.
Has anybody experienced this before? I'm not prepared to pay £490 every year.
 
#6 ·
Any T5 (03-09) which left the factory with glazed side panels is type approved as an M1 passenger car. Most then get put in the Diesel Car category which attract VED (Tax class 49) based on their CO2 emissions (purely fuel economy, not CO, NOx, HC which dictate the EU emissions grading).

The tax bands are shown here....

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...s/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/419799/V149_Budget_2015_Final_version.pdf

If the vehicle is converted to a motorhome prior to first registration then its VED class is changed to LGV class 39 (or 36 if its an early adopter of the latest emissions regs). If you subsequently change your T5 into a camper then it stays as class 49 Diesel Car.

What you need to find out is whether your van came out of the factory as a panel van (which would normally be LGV VED class 39 or 36) and had windows fitted later or whether it was a Kombi / Window Van / Shuttle / Caravelle.

I have a 2007 Window Van (fully glazed but no rear seats even thought the log book says 9 seats - these are sold as base vehicles for taxis and mobility buses) which produces 221 g/km of CO2 and thus pays Diesel Car VED Band K at £290 a year. If I had an automatic gearbox the penalty on fuel consumption and thus higher CO2 would trip it over the 225g/km threshold and drop it into the Band L at £490.

How do you tell if your in the right band? Firstly - chassis number those starting WV1### are panel vans (LGV) and those like mine are WV2### (Diesel Cars). Next, under the steering wheel (or maybe on the drivers seat base and there's also the same sticker in the front of the service book) there is a white paper sticker and on the 4th row it will say in big letters the factory vehicle name - mine is TRANSPORTER KOMBI LR so Kombi = car, LR = long wheel base. I think a panel van would say kastenwagen (kasten = box).
 
#7 ·
PS. Vehicles which are sold off to none disabled buyers loose their zero VED status and anything can happen at that point so I wouldn't be surprised if it was dropped into the wrong category.

My last T4 (96 P reg Motability window van) got re classified as a Motorcaravan and cheap LGV tax when it was nothing of the sort (but it was 6 weeks later when I fitted cupboards and a bed etc).
 
#8 ·
Mine is a factory fitted window van with 3 seats. Sadly its auto so the £490 VED rate is probably the most fitting. I have filled out a form V10 requesting it be classed as light goods vehicle but that's highly unlikely. I have re-contacted my seller who swears blind he was advised by the DVLA that its in the category.
£225 is acceptable but £490 is ridiculous. I will check my VIN numbers tonight when I get home.
 
#11 ·
That applies to T5 Kombi and Window too though. They all have the WV2 chassis number. They share the same basic chassis features such as bonded side panels and seat belt anchorages.

Only after 2010 when the T5GP was launched did they punt the Kombi over to commercial status and LGV VED. I've not seen a Window Van T5GP so cant comment on what they did with that...
 
#14 ·
Nah, some one's yanking your chain. Tax never changes unless there was a mistake when it was registered.

Adding a speed limiter to a new van wont change emissions as all the drive cycle testing is at low speed.

Registering a vehicle as a camper can only influence the VED at first registration. Campers are taxed as LGV (vans) anyway.

Re classifying a van to campervan will allow you to drive faster as the speed limits are higher. Insurance drops for campers too but many insurers (mine included) don't care what the log book says as long as you use the van as a camper.