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It didn't have the W terminal. I solder a wire to the stator of the alternator, before the diode and the rev counter begin to work.
When I was testing the rev counter I noticed that I when the rev counter was over 2000 RPM, the buzzer started and the oil led begin to flash. On this new engine I only have one oil pressure valve. I grounded the wire of the high pressure valve and everything went right. Well almost everything. The rev counter is not calibrated, because the alternator or the crankshaft puller has a different diameter.
I will have to open the cluster and make a change on one of the resistances. I only have to figure out the right one and the value I:
If any one has the solution please let me know. :)

João
 
It didn't have the W terminal. I solder a wire to the stator of the alternator, before the diode and the rev counter begin to work.
When I was testing the rev counter I noticed that I when the rev counter was over 2000 RPM, the buzzer started and the oil led begin to flash. On this new engine I only have one oil pressure valve. I grounded the wire of the high pressure valve and everything went right. Well almost everything. The rev counter is not calibrated, because the alternator or the crankshaft puller has a different diameter.
I will have to open the cluster and make a change on one of the resistances. I only have to figure out the right one and the value I:
If any one has the solution please let me know. :)

João
hi there, i have this problem. i shall try grounding high pressure oil vlave. i also find alternator charge and rev counter dont work untill i blip throttle any ideas? :ILU:
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
hi there, i have this problem. i shall try grounding high pressure oil vlave. i also find alternator charge and rev counter dont work untill i blip throttle any ideas? :ILU:
Joao has a TDI engine from a Golf 4 and a 1994 cable speedo cluster so his problems will not be related to yours. The crank pulley is smaller on the AGR engine so the RPM is different.
 
hi not sure if you have tried getting back to me after it didnt work theother day but i found this write up youve which really good, ive found some clocks on ebay and their from a passat b4 with a aaz engine would this be the right ones for me as i have abl engine ?

cheers mark :*
 
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hi not sure if you have tried getting back to me after it didnt work theother day but i found this write up youve which really good, ive found some clocks on ebay and their from a passat b4 with a aaz engine would this be the right ones for me as i have abl engine ?

cheers mark :*
I replied to your PM twice. The first time I did so you were unable to receive PM. I replied the second time and this was sucessful so check your PM inbox. Yes the AAZ passat cluster will fit.
 
hi sorry mr penbryn i have just one more question for you with the passat cluster do i need to change any wiring to make the rev counter work ?

thank you T:
 
This arrived in the post this morning from fleebay-


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Now heres the interesting part, this cluster came from a 2000 1.9TD (ABL) van, factory fit.
The guy on ebay listed the part number as 7DO 920 901 G and having read up on the parts numbers for these I read that these were CAN based units and wouldnt work correctly as they end in "1" and not "0".

Anyway a mate of mine has a 2000 1.9TD (ABL) which weve since converted to AHU tdi and hes got the blue/red cluster from factory also.
So I plugged in my vagcom to get the part number for his dash and got 7DO 920 901 G !
Now his is definately not a CAN based van, even tried to scan the CAN module and as expected it couldnt find it.

So I got this one off ebay at a bargain price with the surround too !

Ill let you guys know how I get on with wiring it up this weekend, Ill try and do a write up for itT:
 
This arrived in the post this morning from fleebay-


Image

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Now heres the interesting part, this cluster came from a 2000 1.9TD (ABL) van, factory fit.
The guy on ebay listed the part number as 7DO 920 901 G and having read up on the parts numbers for these I read that these were CAN based units and wouldnt work correctly as they end in "1" and not "0".

Anyway a mate of mine has a 2000 1.9TD (ABL) which weve since converted to AHU tdi and hes got the blue/red cluster from factory also.
So I plugged in my vagcom to get the part number for his dash and got 7DO 920 901 G !
Now his is definately not a CAN based van, even tried to scan the CAN module and as expected it couldnt find it.

So I got this one off ebay at a bargain price with the surround too !

Ill let you guys know how I get on with wiring it up this weekend, Ill try and do a write up for itT:
do these work with the abl engine?
 
Hi I have a question I put a cluster in my 1.9TD 800 last year.the rev counter went all the way round the dial and stayed there until the engine was terned off.I now realise I have one out of a 2.5. I fitted the cluster then went away for a weekend the oil light came on on tickover when it got hot, I changed the 2 oil presser switches with no joy.I assumed the engine was on the way out even though it was perfect befor . My question is is it possable the cluster is the problem. I can't swop it back because the engine is out and I have put a tdi engine in,just doing the electrics and inter cooler.

I'll be gutted if it is.

keep up the good work

thanks Dennis
 
hi not sure if its the same on the 2.5 but ive had flashing oil lights and rev counter doing strange things and i tracked it down to the 2 wires coming from the alternator, they where damaged and had been rubbing and got corroded. might be worth a look
 
Nice read thanks, I have a question re my setup :D

I[have a 1998 AJA T4 1200D LWB 2.4D, Ihave a cluster with no rev counter, it has a pointless clock instead, cant seem to find a picture of mine, but it has its miles stored on a lcd not dials. Doesnt seem to have a obc either.

I want a rev counter! and poss the option to get some snazzy blue dials,, what are my options?
Im guessing i will need to fit a sensor + loom on the gear box or can it take it from the alternator?
Any guides, info, part numbers and parts etc appreciated ;) Thanks in advance..T:
 
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Nice read thanks, I have a question re my setup :D

I[have a 1998 AJA T4 1200D LWB 2.4D, Ihave a cluster with no rev counter, it has a pointless clock instead, cant seem to find a picture of mine, but it has its miles stored on a lcd not dials.
From the article above:

Also from this period onward all speedometers were electronic – there were no cable speedos. Other changes included an electronic odo and trip which was now located at the bottom of the speedo – this is the easiest way to identify this particular cluster.
I want a rev counter! and poss the option to get some snazzy blue dials,, what are my options?
Im guessing i will need to fit a sensor + loom on the gear box or can it take it from the alternator?
Any guides, info, part numbers and parts etc appreciated ;) Thanks in advance..T:
Please re-read the thread carefully, all of the answers to your questions are there in the text. Your speedo is already electronic. If you want an easy solution, get a 1995-1998 cluster from a either 1.9TD or 2.4D only, with a tach and that will plug straight into the existing harness - done. If you want the later cluster you will need one from a 1.9TD along with the harness, binnacle and surround. Hope this helps
 
Dam it, baught a can one by mistake by the look of it even after reading all your info, and then you updated it with new info :(

I need a 7D0 920 901 G and I bought 7D0 920 901 B, which is the wrong one.

You need to replace the exact number on the ABL model otherwise they wont work

More money down the drain...live and learn I guess...

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Hello Penbryn,

Are you sure your table is correctly headed?

I checked http://www.t4-wiki.de/wiki/Kombiinstrument_(Umbau) and it would appear you might have swapped the ESP and CAN headings.

I have a T4 Multivan II with a 2.5tdi manual gearbox. It has a CAN bus but no ESP, MFA or FIS and the cluster code is 7DO 920 803 B.

I am looking for a 7DO 920 903 B as I need the mph dial.

I am wondering if I could just replace the whole unit for a 7DO 920 923 B unit so that I can have the MFA display even if I would need to add a few wires to the wiring loom.
 
HI i am from belgium i have a t4 and i try to instal a blue cluster on my 96 2400cc diesel 5 cylindres,i find one in uk in miles number 7DO920 900 B but everything work exept the rev conter still fix at 5000 rpm,the oil warning light and the brake warning still lightning what is the problem???? if you can help me!!!H:
 
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hi ive done the tdi conversion and have installed a 2.5tdi cluster everything works brill, but was wondering if anyone has found a cluster that will give mpg ect that i can just slot straight in ? cheers

If you read the thread carefully...

VW Golf 4 Diesel "Blue Clocks" non-CAN clusters P/N: 1J0 919 XXX The binnacle fronts (plastic shrouds) are slightly different from the T4 ones but if you have a corresponding late T4 cluster these can be swapped over. The T4 fuel tank sender can be modified by swapping the polarity and adding a low-ohm resistor to the hot side. A much more elegant solution is to fit the Passat/Golf tank sender - then there is no modification - just plug'n'play. Also the golf clusters have immobiliser 2 built-in, so you could do-away with your immobiliser box and just use the one in the cluster if you wanted to. Furthermore, some of these clusters are available with MFA (p/n's: 1J0 919 911, 1J0 919 930, and 1J0 919 931 are the three I am aware of) and by connecting the fuel-consumption signal you can get goodies such as MPG, miles till empty, etc.
 
hi ive done the tdi conversion and have installed a 2.5tdi cluster everything works brill, but was wandering if anyone has found a cluster that will give mpg ect that i can just slot strait in ? cheers
 
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